Hey, have you all seen this? http://www.serpwidgets.com/Apps/apps.html Serpentine Widgets Snake Measurer. I've been struggling for months to get accurate measurements of my snakes, now I just got them all done (rather painlessly for all involved) with 3 photos and a bit of computer time. Basically, you have to take a picture of your snake from above with a ruler or something else in the picture that you know the exact length of. Then you import the picture into the program, set the measuring length with two clicks on the ruler and then go to "start measuring" and click the photo of your snake snout to tail or vice-versa dot to dot along the spine. With each click the program adds up the distance. Here's the measurements I got (the weights I got from my scale): "Talyn" (4 year old BRB) is 181cm (and 2.4kg)/ 5.9 ft 5.29lb "Q" (6 year old BRB) is 178 cm (and 1.03kg) / 5.8ft 2.27 lb --poor skinny dude (I'm going to work on that.) "Monty" (8 month old BP) is 58.8 cm (and 178g)/ 23.1 inches 6.28 oz Check it out and try it, it's fun!!