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RED ALERT: HR511 - Help Stop It Now

Discussion in 'Reptile Law - Legal News' started by Rich, Feb 27, 2012.

  1. Rich

    Rich Administrator Staff Member Premium Member

    RED ALERT: HR511 Stop Python BAN NOW!

    HR 511, a bill to amend title 18, United States Code, to prohibit the importation of various injurious species of constrictor snakes; Indian python, Python molurus, including the Burmese python, Python molurus bivittatus; reticulated python, Broghammerus reticulatus; Northern African python,Python sebae; Southern African python, Python natalensis; Boa constrictor; yellow anaconda, Eunectes notaeus; DeSchauensee’s anaconda, Eunectes deschauenseei; green anaconda, Eunectes murinus; and the Beni anaconda, Eunectes beniensis, in the US House of Representatives, was introduced January 26, 2011 by Congressman Tom Rooney (R-FL) .

    Congressman Rooney has taken action to move HR 511! This bill seeks to add 9 constricting snakes to the Injurious Wildlife List of the Lacey Act. HR 511 has been scheduled for a Markup Hearing before the US House Judiciary Committee on Tuesday February 28, 2012 at 10:00 AM EST.

    Markups for the 112th Congress

    >>There is very little time to voice opposition to this bill that could devistate the Reptile Community. Please participate in the USARK Call In Campaign TODAY!<<


    Talking Points:

    •Will destroy thousands of jobs and small family businesses; $104 million annual economic impact.
    •Criminalize the actions of over 1 million American Citizens; Lacey Act felons.
    •Federal action to address a localized problem in South Florida is unnecessary; the State of Florida and US Fish & Wildlife have already taken draconian measures.
    •Underlying science has been criticized by scientists from around the world.
    •Creates a massive animal welfare problem, potentially displacing millions of animals.

    Key Members of House Judiciary Committee:

    Lamar Smith (R-TX)- 202-225-4236

    Sensenbrenner (R-WI)- 202-225-5101

    Coble (R-NC)- 202-225-3065

    Issa (R-CA)- 202-225-3906

    Gohmert (R-TX)- 202-225-3035

    Chaffetz (R-UT)- 202-225-7751

    Gowdy (R-SC)- 202-225-6030

    Poe (R-TX)- 202-225-6565

    Goodlatte (R-VA)- 202-225-5431
  2. crepers86

    crepers86 Elite Member

    GRRRRRRRR. I just watched what Nelson brought to congress last night on youtube for the first time. 90% of the **** he left out, and 10% uneducated info that made no since.... He actually said that the burm he had infront of him had two fangs, and that it had barbs like a fish hook...
  3. crepers86

    crepers86 Elite Member

    How does the call in campaign work
  4. Merlin

    Merlin Administrator Staff Member Premium Member

    You simply call the members of the committee and voice your views POLITELY! Explain the facts and your concerns, but do it POLITELY!
    Do not rant and rave or swear. Choose your words well.
    If you act like an idiot, they will just hang up on you.
  5. Merlin

    Merlin Administrator Staff Member Premium Member

    Remember that you are trying to sway them to see your side of the situation. If you just tick them off you have not accomplished anything but to push them toward the other side.,
  6. crepers86

    crepers86 Elite Member

    This was also posted over on on and a member called everyone he gave a description of what the results where the one in UT was the the only one that Opposed the ban so far due to the fact that it will injure industry in his state.

    Called each one this morning. At all times I was polite, made certain to mention the main points given above. (economic impact, lack of environmental OR public safety concern, fact that it makes innocent Americans into felons if they want to keep their pets, etc)

    I start at the bottom of the lists, in case other people get interrupted and never make it to the last folks, this way we're assured all the list gets called.

    Goodlatte- VA : Aide was dismissive, gave the "I'll pass on your concerns" comment.

    Poe- R-TX : Listened attentively, gave the "I'll pass on your concerns"

    Gowdy R-SC : Said they won't record my objections, because I'm "not in their district". I told them it was FEDERAL and they were on a FEDERAL committee that would affect everyone in the US, therefor they should be taking EVERYONE'S concerns.

    Chaffetz - UT: Said they OPPOSE the bill, that UT has industry that would be impacted, that it's not a good bill, they will not be supporting it.(This is what the local office told me weeks ago when I talked to them then about it)

    Gohmert - TX : Has terrible hold music while the aide looked for someone else to talk to me, that person was busy, he listened with some interest, but was less interested when he learned I was not in his district. "I will pass on your concerns" after I repeated my insistence that this is a FEDERAL impact, thus my voice counts.

    Issa - CA :Automated system, left a message. *this was the ONLY office that a live person did not pick up*

    Coble - NC : The aide sounded sick, took my info, sounded like he really wanted to be home on the couch, so was very dismissive.

    Sensenbrenner - WI : The aide implied there WAS a problem "cropping up across the US" regarding the species in the bill. When asked for examples of any issues, he admitted he didn't know that much about any of it. I ran through the facts for him, and he waffled, saying "Well I don't know about any of that..." and I repeated, my facts were facts, not opinions... as far as lack of ANY environmental impact anywhere except south Florida(which has bans already), the lack of public safety concerns(brought up cats causing more deaths and more environmental impact as ferals) but the aide all but implied that he himself seemed to think the bill was good. I assume(ASSume, I know, but I got no clear answer yea or nay)that THIS Congressman is FOR the bill. We should definitely be calling him repeatedly from across the country.

    L. Smith - TX : This aide transferred me TO the Judiciary committee offices? Who promptly told me I should be calling Congress offices, but they would make sure Smith got my concerns. I called the office again, told the aide that the Committee offices told me I should be calling the various Congress offices, and she agreed, then told me I should call them... after admitting that Smith is the HEAD of the Committee. *eyebrow quirk* I don't know if she was confused, didn't think the HEAD of the Committee should take comments, or doesn't want to hear opposition to the Bill. She gave no hints yea or nay, but I gave her my spiel over that I oppose it and why.

    I did my best to sound like a concerned US citizen, over the economic impact, the lack of benefit, etc.. not like a frantic pet owner who has half read a Email chain letter. I made certain to repeat the job loss, the lack of benefit because that's the two things that a typical Congressman might be concerned with. They don't care if we can't own a certain species of big snake. They are concerned with $$ and numbers. So I emphasized that, with a touch of "Wouldn't it look terrible if a military member has to euthanize his pet of 20 years, just because a useless Bill was passed by YOUR Congressman..." hints to a few of the aides. I referred to the animals in the Bill as "species" or "pets" instead of "constrictor snakes" or "giant maneating pythons" or anything that could evoke a "ewww snake!" response.

    Hopefully there's a LOT more calls going in. The Bill is due for a hearing TOMORROW."
  7. AjaMichelle

    AjaMichelle Elite Member

    Where can I read about the underlying science that has already been criticized?

    I don't want to make the calls without any "evidence" to dispute. :)
  8. crepers86

    crepers86 Elite Member

    I have been trying to research on this at the same time working on school work.

    study on the python surviving in South Carolina

    feds to ban trade on burms on pet product news

    I couldn't find anything on the other snakes that are in this list. but this might be a good start to go somewhere.
  9. crepers86

    crepers86 Elite Member

    This was on USARK facebook today

    After an outpouring of opposition calls to Congressional Members by the Reptile Nation, and a bevy of amendment proposals, HR511 was unanimously reported out of the US House Judiciary Committee today. It is not completely clear what the next step for HR 511 will be, but the bill has passed out of the Judiciary Committee today. US House Natural Resources Committee Staff has filed a memo to have the bill properly heard with expert testimony given before the House Natural Resources Committee. Whatever happens HR 511 still has a long way to go before becoming law. This is a set back, but we have overcome setbacks like this before. Check out Herp Nation News tomorrow for a more detailed report and analysis from USARK CEO Andrew Wyatt. Stay Tuned!
  10. crepers86

    crepers86 Elite Member

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