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Rare And Expensive Monitor Lizard

Discussion in 'Lizard Videos' started by Yangliang, Sep 28, 2018.

  1. kriminaal

    kriminaal HH Block Leader Staff Member Premium Member

    Native populations might be protected but captive bred Gilas are sold legally here in North America.
    They are a threatened species but not endangered yet. You probably need a CITES permit to transport them across borders.
    By the way. Your English is great if it's not your first language. Better than a lot of English speaking individuals on here.
     
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  2. Darkbird

    Darkbird Moderator Staff Member

    I believe this only applies to wild caught specimens, but I could be wrong. I know I can buy one if I look around a bit.
     
  3. murrindindi

    murrindindi Elite Member

    It is 100% a hatchling Varanus komodoensis...
     
  4. murrindindi

    murrindindi Elite Member

    You can buy them quite legally over here (U.K) although you need a license.
     
  5. Merlin

    Merlin Administrator Staff Member Premium Member

    Actually there are legal breeders of Gila monsters. And they can be legally aquired.
    Komodo dragons are not available except on the black market. And if caught with one they will hang you out to dry.
     
  6. jonathan.piazza91

    jonathan.piazza91 Active Member

    I know I already chimed in but I believe it's a Komodo as well. I have no idea on the legality of owning a Komodo. My assumption would be absolutely not. I saw a program on Netflix where a couple from the UK purchased one but moved to an island off of Spain and acquired it through a zoological association and the dude seemed much more legit than a hobby owner. Take a Netflix show for what it's worth, haha.

    As far as the laws you looked up regarding Gila monsters, you are absolutely right regarding wild specimens. Both myself and some friends enjoy field herping and I have friends that are very well read in the laws regarding wild Heloderma specimens. It is illegal to move them or harass them, although that would be a tough law to enforce unless state Fish and Game or US Fish and Wildlife Services physically saw you in the act or had picture evidence. I have heard of people taking photos with them in the deserts of southern Arizona and getting in trouble because it made the rounds on social media and an agency was alerted.

    I would advice you to not take any action you feel unsafe or unsure about regarding the online marketplace that you bought your iguana from. With that being said, however, I would see if there is anywhere else that is less sketchy to purchase your supplies from to not support these people.
     
  7. Lori68

    Lori68 Established Member

    There is an app you can download on your phone where you can make anonymous reports about illegal wildlife sales. Its called wildlife witness. Something for which I am more than willing to stick my neck out to report but I don't think I can without a name and address of the place he is doing business in.

    Wildlife Witness | Help stop illegal wildlife trade

    Another place you can report illegal sales anonymously is through traffic.org

    TRAFFIC | Wildlife trade specialists
     
  8. amanda swan

    amanda swan Member

    welp i got schooled im an dumpling
     
  9. murrindindi

    murrindindi Elite Member

    No, you`re not an dumpling, it was a easy mistake to make... ;)
     
  10. murrindindi

    murrindindi Elite Member

    Hi Lori, I can access the site from my laptop and make contact with them, I`m happy to do that if you think it might help?
     
  11. Lori68

    Lori68 Established Member

    I've already sent off messages to ask for help in this matter but maybe more voices would help. Surely one message to them would get through....I hope. Thank you for offering to try yourself Stefan, go for it if you're up to it
     
  12. Yangliang

    Yangliang Well-Known Member

    Dear all, thanks for your comments. I will attach the name card of the seller in a moment which doesn't provide any addresses (unfortunately) but does give their online store name, contact details through the chat app (WeChat) and nature of business (Rare wild animals), which kind of says it all. I'll leave it to those living outside of the country to follow it up.
     
  13. Yangliang

    Yangliang Well-Known Member

  14. Yangliang

    Yangliang Well-Known Member

    To see what animals the seller has listed, you need to first go to the Google play store and download the chat software WeChat (a Chinese copy of WhatsApp) and then add 805110684, then wait for the seller's reply. Then you need to tap on his avatar picture then tap on moments. All photos are listed there.
     

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