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Panther Eye Closed

Discussion in 'Chameleons' started by Lenny1, Oct 20, 2008.

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  1. Lenny1

    Lenny1 Member

    Hi All
    I have a 4 month old Panther Cham who started to show problems with his eye a couple of weeks ago. He started rubbing the eye and he shed a day or two after - we thought the closure of his eye was because he was about to shed but his eye has gotten worse and today it was closed for the majority of the time. I have read through the posts about eyes and I have booked him to see a Vet tomorrow. He doesn't seem stressed, is eating and drinking well.

    I just wanted to know whether people have experienced this with their Chams and what they did that worked and how long it took for the eye to get better? If he has something in it and he just needs drops etc - will it create any lasting damage?

    He has a UVB light which I have only used for an hour or so a day in the past couple of days, and he has a good heat source. Not sure if it could be the UVB that might be causing problems but since not using it it seems to be getting worse? Any comments would be helpful. Thanks all:)
     
  2. fire2225ems

    fire2225ems Subscribed User Premium Member

    What brand and strength of UVB. You said you have only had it on an hour a day the past few days, what about prior to that? Does the Cham have a hide to be able to get away from the UVB? And while you are at it, why not give us more specifics about his setup...

    Sounds like you made the right decision with the vet visit, is it a herp vet?
     
  3. Lenny1

    Lenny1 Member

    Hi, Vet looked at it and thought it might have something to do with heat set up. We have a repti-glow 5.0 UVB. Heat comes from a heat lamp which shines into the nursery tank. UVB is normally on all day and he can hide under leaves in tank. Vet gave us solution to paint around his eye for 2 days which we have done but eye still seems closed! Help!
     
  4. fire2225ems

    fire2225ems Subscribed User Premium Member

    Why don't you give us more of a rundown of your setup. We need to have an idea of what you have going on to be able to make suggestions. And again I ask, was this a vet that specializes in reptiles or one that is just willing to see them?
     
  5. Lenny1

    Lenny1 Member

    Hi, the vet says he specialises in reptiles, he also sees Cats and dogs, but he is the most local one. The one who just sees reptiles alone is over 30miles away and we didnt want to stress the cham out by taking him in the car for such a long time.

    Our exact set up is: Nursery tank, approx 45cmx45cmx20cm (cham is only 4 months old). The tank has climbing wire, leaves and plastic planting for him to climb,hide, bask etc. We have a 5.0 exo tera repti glow UVB light which currently rests on the top of the tank and shines through, we have this on all day. We also have a 50w halogen light which stands approx 10cm from top of tank and shines in to produce heat. Heat is at 82 degrees, light (heat source) is set up with a thermostat.

    He does open his eyes and today we have observed him rubbing both eye into water. He also opens his mouth a lot and plumps out his chin. He seems ok in himself and is feeding well. We have just watched him scoff a giant cricket, he then went back up to the light to bask. Our crickets are coated in a small amount of calcium powder. Please advise if you think any of this is wrong. Help - i just dont want the other eye to go the same way. Thanks
     
  6. schlegelbagel

    schlegelbagel Frog Lover Premium Member

    Is your UVB source shining through glass, mesh, screen, or something else? If its mesh/screen, what size are the holes. Chams do need UVB but not too strong and need the ability to get out of it when they need to. Do you turn the lights off at night? They need a night/day cycle.

    What is your humidity?
     
  7. Lenny1

    Lenny1 Member

    Hi, UVB shines through plastic top which has bars so light can shine through. we switch it on when we wake up and it goes off at about 10pm when he takes himself off to bed. He can hide under lots of leaves if he needs to.

    We spray him about 3-4 times a day. we were advised that the water should dry out before spraying him again and this would create good humidity. we were advised this by our breeder. so therefore i am unsure of exact humidity.

    Any ideas as to what could be causing the eye to keep closed? Thanks
     
  8. fire2225ems

    fire2225ems Subscribed User Premium Member

    Meaning that it is a solid piece of translucent plastic?
     
  9. Lenny1

    Lenny1 Member

    Hi, no, it is a meshed hard plastic. Similar to the one on this link: Tom Pla-House Aquarium and Reptile Plastic Tank- Extra Large

    Light source is a halogen light, UVB is exo-tera reti glow 5.0.

    His other eye looks like it is mis-shapen slightly today and I am praying it doesnt go the same way as the other one! He is opening the other eye when he has the cool soothing drops on it but keeps it closed for the majority of the time. Still no sign of discharge and he is acting himself. Eating lots, drinking, active during the day, he shed on wednesday last week and shed within one day and was bright and active the next day so I am hoping and thinking there is not much wrong with him internally and that it is an external problem that can be fixed? I have ordered some Behpher reptile eye drops which I am going to use and see if these help? Just wish I knew what was causing it?
     
  10. fire2225ems

    fire2225ems Subscribed User Premium Member

    The plastic will filter out any UVB before it reaches him.
     
  11. Lenny1

    Lenny1 Member

    So do you think it is the lack of UVB that is causing his eye to do this? We are just looking to purchase an exo tera terrarium 60x48x60 which has a metal mesh top which should be better?? Please advise.
     
  12. fire2225ems

    fire2225ems Subscribed User Premium Member

    It could be a contributing factor. The issue is that we aren't vets and we aren't able to really examine the animal so there is no way for us to give you a definitive diagnosis. I believe that Chams require low levels of UVB and that sometimes to much can cause bad burns for them. But if your UVB is all being filtered out, it seems more like it might be a cause of him not getting enough. If the exo tera top has holes greater than 1/4" big, it should work fine.
     
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