Well a house fire about 2 months ago took from us a female Desert tortoise, an adult Gila monster, a very large Bull snake, 2 Ball pythons and a Tiger salamander. We still have our 3 adult Sulcatas. Loss is nothing new to us, we lost our son at age 17 just a few years ago. We are doing our best to start again. I've already put together an alligator enclosure. You just can't give up when you have so much passion for something.