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Not Eating After Antibiotics, What Should I Do?

Discussion in 'Bearded Dragons' started by Fellowdt23, May 11, 2012.

  1. murrindindi

    murrindindi Elite Member

    Sorry, I ran out of time; just to explain, I wanted to say you cannot work this out by raising the ambient temp on the warm side, you only need to know what the ambient (air) temp is in the coolest part of the enclosure, once that`s achieved, raise/lower either the heat bulb or the basking surface, NOT by fitting a higher wattage bulb at the basking site, that will heat the whole enclosure, possibly too much.
    I believe their core body/activity temp is around 32 to 35c (90 to 95f), the air temp doesn`t need to be that high.
     
  2. Fellowdt23

    Fellowdt23 Active Member

    Hi yes i understand, unfortunatly i wont get it exactly right until i recieve my temp gun, ive reduced the dimmer to 87 now and checked the air temp with 3 different thermometers all saying 86 to 87 and he has stayed basking for last 20 minutes so it must be closer to what he was wanting now! It looks like a lower wattage bulb may be needed hes currently under 75 watt butt the light is pretty dim at those temps so a lower wattage would brightin the basking spot better and reduce cool end also?

    I didnt think a 40 watt or 60 watt was enought for a 4ft tank?

    Also he still has mouth open slightly out the tank ive got to admit im struggling to get the range since he went into the bigger tank never had a problem in 3ft one, suppose i will know more when the temp gun comes

    Thanks
     
  3. Fellowdt23

    Fellowdt23 Active Member

    Forgot to add coolside now at 26-27 so getting there but my room is quite warm today also

    Thanks for taking the time to help
     
  4. murrindindi

    murrindindi Elite Member

    I think that the ambient temp you`ve just given around the basking spot and cool side may be closer to what`s recommended (if accurate).
    The wattages of the heat bulbs depend on the temps in the room the enclosure`s in to a large extent, and if it`s usually relatively warm, obviously less heat is needed inside the tank.
    You`re welcome to the advise, thanks for listening and acting on it!
     
  5. Fellowdt23

    Fellowdt23 Active Member

    Hi thanks again i have one last question though lol!

    The basking light has now dimmed out because my room temp is the same as the cool end so right now he doesnt have a basking spot as the light has gone out therefor even if i lowered the bulb wattage as long as the cool end is the same as room temperature the basking spot will never come on! How do i sort that problem i think i have exo terra fan some where? Would that do? Nothing to controll it although. In winter this will not pose a problem even morning to mid afternoon i think it will be fine but after then i risk having no basking spot when the house heats up :/

    Sorry to bother you again
     
  6. mld

    mld Subscribed User Premium Member

    What wattage bulb are you using now?
     
  7. murrindindi

    murrindindi Elite Member

    I would take out the dimmer on the basking bulb, it really isn`t a good idea in my opinion. If the surface temp gets too hot, adjust the bulb/basking platform. In the warmer weather you might need to use a lower wattage basking bulb (easy)!
    EDIT: They absolutely MUST have a proper basking (surface) temp during activity times.
     
  8. Fellowdt23

    Fellowdt23 Active Member

    Hi 75watt bulb i need to go lower as we are heading for warmer weather i understand what your saying about the dimmer but if i remove the dimmer and have the bulb running i then have a worse problem than before as there will be nothing to keep the cool end cool enough

    Right now i have both doors of his tank and the cool end is sitting at 27 same as my room temperature thats the problem im placed with
     
  9. Fellowdt23

    Fellowdt23 Active Member

    If anybody reading this has 4ft wooden tank i would apreciate a picture of your temps and setup and where your tenp probes are placed

    Thanks
     
  10. Fellowdt23

    Fellowdt23 Active Member

    If i close the doors no matter what bulb i put in or where i put the basking spot its going to get to hot
    Im actualy scunnered with this as i dont see how i can resolve this matter
     
  11. murrindindi

    murrindindi Elite Member

    I have a 12 x 6 x 5 feet enclosure, I can get a surface temp of between 50 to 60c (120 to 140f) at one side, and a cool side ambient of approx 24c (75f). You must place the digital thermometer just above ground level, first on one side then the other (I use one at each end).
     
  12. murrindindi

    murrindindi Elite Member

    Can you photo the actual digital thermometers and their positions again?
    EDIT: Is the room temp usually that high? As I suggested earlier, I think you would be better using the halogen flood bulbs.
     
  13. mld

    mld Subscribed User Premium Member

    I don't think I could stand a room temp that high, (hot flashes) :(
    Is your heat on in your house? You will never get cool side temps any lower with room temps at 80 degrees.
     
  14. Fellowdt23

    Fellowdt23 Active Member

    Hi thats my point exactly as the day goes on my house heats as its in direct sunlight right now its 78 in my room and cool end of tank is now the same as that, but ive had to slide one door right open to get it the same so if i shut the door and put even a 20 watt basking bulb that little heat is going to make the tank to hot especially when i can only get the right gradiant by leaving the door open! Maybe my only option is to take one glass door out and replace it with mesh In the summer months but even then not every day is the room temp going to be the same

    Sorry to continue to bother you with this i must be doing your heads in but i have seriously hit a stumbling block
     
  15. murrindindi

    murrindindi Elite Member

    It`s o.k to keep asking questions! If this isn`t a silly question, is there a cooler room you can put the tank in for now?
     
  16. Fellowdt23

    Fellowdt23 Active Member

    Hi again i received the infared temp gun you advised me on through ebay turns out my actual basking surface temp isnt to bad its sitting at 112 cold end isnt as cool as id like but in not going to change anything just now as i have witnessed a couple of coughs which tells me he isnt over his respiratory infection yet, vet said on phone some beardies dont respond well to baytril so i have him booked into to specialist next wednesday which is over 100 miles away as i only have a normal vet locally which is unfortunate and next wednseday is only time he could take me.

    In the mean time vet didnt disagree with me using nebuliser so i put him in a tub with neb running for 10 minutes to give him some relief as his poor we neck was black because of cough and i have to say he got instant relief black beard disapeared rather quick also the neb states it can rid of RI's itself with 7 days of use but i will take him to vet wht ever the neb outcome is! Good thing is he still very lively not lying depressed in corner
     
  17. mld

    mld Subscribed User Premium Member

    Best of luck at the vet, keep us posted!
     
  18. Fellowdt23

    Fellowdt23 Active Member

    Will do, like i say hes not to bad hes very alert which is always good heading to the vet even just for my own piece of mind maybe im just picking out every we thing because he was ill who knows but better to be safe than sorry :)

    Will also keep you posted on the nebuliser and let you know if it improves his we cough it certainly took the stress from him almost immediately
     
  19. murrindindi

    murrindindi Elite Member

    Hi again, glad you got the Temp-gun and found the temps were o.k. I wish you all the best at the vet, and it`s really good to see the effort you`re putting into the lizard. Well done for that, keep us all posted!
     
  20. diehardislanders

    diehardislanders Elite Member

    hey, im starting to have the same problem with my temps being too high. For now I am running the ac, but that can get expensive fast so I am trying to find alternatives. I am at a lost. thought about putting ice in the soil, but that would make dirt too cool. do you guys think a small fan pointed at the tank would remove the hot air?
     

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