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New gecko not sure what it is, HELP please!

Discussion in 'Geckos - Other' started by Amber, Oct 30, 2004.

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  1. Amber

    Amber Elite Member

    Okay so I was looking around a pet shop that has a few reptiles in it, when I saw this gecko, they had him/her reduced to £9.99 because they did not know what type of gecko it was. I didn't know either, but the crickets they was trying to feed him were way too big for him, and so the conditions they were keeping in him didn't look right at all. I decided to buy him, I was sure people on here would know what he is, and if I can't look after him well enough, he would be able to find a home with someone who can.
    So, here he is...

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  2. steel rip

    steel rip Elite Member

    I don't have any geckos myself, so sorry, cant help you there, but i would like to comment on what a beautiful lil guy you have, hes gorgeous :D
     
  3. furryscaly

    furryscaly Elite Member

    DEFINATELY a wall gecko of some species. Genus is Tarentola though. I have a white-spotted gecko (aka annulated gecko, among other names), Tarentola annularis. Your's isn't a white-spotted, and it doesn't look like a moorish gecko (aka, crocodile gecko), Tarentola mauritanica. Not a T. gomerensis either. Possibly a gran canaria gecko, T. boettgeri, but it looks more like a young tenerife gecko T. delalandii. Hopefully this site can help:

    http://www.nafcon.dircon.co.uk/geckos_tarentola.html

    Its the best one I've found so far. Your's isn't a bibron's or a turner's gecko though, that's for sure. Here's some pics of my white-spotted gecko to give an example of another Tarentola species:

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    Hmmm, sorry, I have some better pics, but they're not on photobucket.
     
  4. furryscaly

    furryscaly Elite Member

    Hmm, well, here's a site that has pics of tenerife gex, but like many geckos, colors can vary a bit from one individual to another. Younger tenerifes look pretty similar to your gecko, but keep in mind, I haven't seen all the various Tarentola out there, so it could still be a different species. I'm just guessing that the care may be similar to my white-spotted though. Almost all wall geckos are WC, if not all of them. If you like, I can give you my caresheet on white-spotteds, even though yurs is a different species. How big is your gecko anyway?

    http://www.reptarium.cz/fotogalerie.php?foto=1308

    Oh! Here's an even better link (thanks Ryan ;)):

    http://www.herp.it/indexjs.htm?SpeciesPages/TarenDelal.htm
     
  5. Amber

    Amber Elite Member

    Its tiny! I'd say about 2 1/2" and VERY fast.
     
  6. Amber

    Amber Elite Member

    and thanx for the help!! So what shoudl I put in his cage? I was going to put in some fake leaves and plants, but should I just be adding more cave like hides?
     
  7. furryscaly

    furryscaly Elite Member

    Your's is just a baby then. He'll probably get at least 5 inches long ecentually. I'd get some bark mulch type substrate, or soil. Set up some rocks and branches and stuff for him to hide in and climb on. He's nocturnal, so no need for a UVB light, just a heat lamp, CHE, heat pad, or a UTH. I prefer heat lamps personally. He'll need a screen lid. As for the temperatures and humidity though, I'm not really sure. Probably something like 70 degrees at the cool end, with a 90 degree basking spot, and 70% humidity, but that's just a guess. Cave-style hides won't be necessary. Those are usually better utalized by terrestrial lizards. Your little guy will prefer to hide under branches, behind leaves, behind rocks, etc. He'll probably use a cave hide if provided though, but you can also make one by stacking flat rocks. I'd give him lots of cover though, not a lot of wide open space.
     
  8. Amber

    Amber Elite Member

    Thanx! Should he be eating crickets, can he eat mealworms.... babyfood?
     
  9. furryscaly

    furryscaly Elite Member

    As with any other lizard, a varied diet is important. Crix should be the bulk of the diet, but yeah, feed him mealies and other feeder insects too now and then. I don't think they eat baby food though, but you can offer it and see if he eats any. I don't feed any to Lybiya (my white-spotted) though. Make sure the crix you feed him are only as long as the distance between his eyes, especially since he's still small. Mealies should also be as small as you can get them, and may even be too big for him at the moment. Make sure you use good vitamin and calcium supplements too. Got a name for him yet? If I can, I'll get some more pics of Libby on here.
     
  10. MIke_Haare

    MIke_Haare Elite Member

    I KNOW WHAT THAT IS

    that's a marble gecko
     
  11. Amber

    Amber Elite Member

    Thanx again!! The mealworms I have now are really reeeeeally tiny, I have some small crickets mixed in with the bigger crickets. It always takes me weeks to name animals, not sure I have any ideas for names yet. Lybiya is really cute!!
     
  12. furryscaly

    furryscaly Elite Member

    I dunno about that one Mike. I've seen a lot of marbled geckos and had one a long time ago. That ain't no marbled. As for the scientific name of the marbled, that's a tricky one. Its not a wall gecko. I've seen them classed as Gekko marmoratus and as Gekko grosmanni. However, then Gekko marmoratus became Christinus marmoratus. Whether they are now classed as C. marmoratus or G. grosmanni, I don't know. I was trying to find a pic of one, so here's 2 links that show marbled geckos under both scientific names. Although both geckos are different colors, they are the same species. Marbled geckos are native to Australia.

    http://www.herpafauna.com/pics/geckos/gek-grossm.html

    http://www.kingsnake.com/oz/lizards/geckos/cmarmoratus.html

    I guess at first glance they do look sorta similar. However, marbled geckos have very fine, smooth, fdelicate skin and a smooth tail. All of the wall geckos, to include this unknown one, have the typical spiney tail and rough, bumpy skin. Marbled geckos also get slightly bigger than Tarentola species.
     
  13. MoLdYpOtAtOe

    MoLdYpOtAtOe Elite Member

    Marbles do not have the spiny tail. Sorry this is a mistake.
     
  14. MIke_Haare

    MIke_Haare Elite Member

    well I have seen pics of marbled geckos looking like that maybe some1 goofed
     
  15. MIke_Haare

    MIke_Haare Elite Member

    or a hybrid
     
  16. MIke_Haare

    MIke_Haare Elite Member

  17. furryscaly

    furryscaly Elite Member

    The link won't work for me. Strophurus ciliaris ciliaris is the norther spiney-tail. I dunno about that one either though. The scales still aren't a match. The gecko in question is unlike any Australian geckos, to include the Strophorus. Another problem is that it doesn't quite look much like a spiney-tail, and spiney-tails are both very rare and VERY expensive. I'd be willing to bet a couple hundred bucks its a Tarentola, and I'm pretty sure the species is Tarentola delalandii. It's identical, right down to the tiniest detail in the scales, to the tiniest detail in the eyes. I've dealt a lot with various Tarentola species, and have a Tarentola annularis myself. No doubt in my mind. The gecko is Tarentola. Here's some links that have pics and info on spiney-tails though:

    http://www.texaslizard.com/S.ciliaris2.jpg

    http://texaslizard.com/spiny.htm

    http://www.wildherps.com/species/S.ciliaris.html

    http://www.ribbitphotography.com/lizards/photo_pages/020543.html

    http://www.kingsnake.com/oz/lizards/geckos/dciliaris.htm
     
  18. Chui'smommy

    Chui'smommy Active Member

    Furryscaly...you need to id my gex

    Hey, furry, it is me, Stacey (greyhoundgirl1977 in other forums!) You need to come to my house and ID these 3 geckos I have. They are either Bibrons, or Marbled, or spiny tailed, or wall geckos. I have looked and looked at pics till I am about to go blind...they seem to have traits of all of them, ugh. Sometimes rescue is a problematic thing...I want everything ID'd right, so I know just how to help it. These 3 are messing with me though, but they are doing good, we are treating them as Bibron's right now, because that is what they resemble the most. I will try to get pics for you....if I can find them...they are flighty. And yikes...they bite!!!! Wow they are mean, but I guess if I had not eaten in a month...I would bite the first thing I saw too. See ya, I will try some pics with a better camera soon. :p
     
  19. Amber

    Amber Elite Member

    hehe yeh, it doesn't reallt look that much like a Northern Spiny-tailed Gecko, thanx for trying to help though! He (or she) has been eating quiet a few mealworms and crickets, and drinking fine, but it is SO fast, I'm going to have to clean the cage soon, not sure how I'm going to...
     
  20. furryscaly

    furryscaly Elite Member

    Hey! Glad you found the HC! Yeah, if your gex look that similar to so many different species, a picture will definately be needed before they can be IDed.
     
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