Bigtyny there's actually no herp shows anywhere near me and breeders are really hard to find! The closest herp shows are in Britain and I don't exactly have the money for flying over and back for a show! ....really annoying! All I have to go by are a couple of pet shops and we all know how their care advice can differ! Schlegelbagel I never really thought of using something like that for an enclosure but would something like that not look really ugly in your house?