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Discussion in 'Lizards - General' started by DwarvenChef, Mar 1, 2012.

  1. DwarvenChef

    DwarvenChef Elite Member

    Ok my ideas for a quarinten tub is not up to my males likes and expectations. He ate a criket day 1 but refused food and looked darker and drab. after a full day of not moving I got spooked and gambled that the info I had on him was correct. I intrduced him to the main tank... I know risky at best I don't know what he may have in him.

    Well a full day later his color is back and vibrent and eating very well. Now I was expecting the usual teretorial displays dancing. I was not however expecting coutship dancing lol. While I watched male (same size as older female) pose and head bob, O-Ushi (female) would also Bob and smack him with her tail, keeping it low though. Not fully breeding but not kicking each others but ether I'll keep that as a good sign. I was expecting lots of running around and threatening as they figured out the pecking order, but as of yet I have not heard or seen this happen. I'm sure as he gets more settled things may heat up in that area, hope not it's kind of nice at the moment.

    Oh ya, he has a name now, for his powder blue tail I have given him the name Bluegenes :p
     
  2. mld

    mld Subscribed User Premium Member

    He is gorgeous! Best of luck with the handsome beast, hope the girls like him :)
     
  3. DwarvenChef

    DwarvenChef Elite Member

    Just observed a posative hook up between Bluegenes and Lara :) My daughter said they looked funny LOL I told her it was lizard porn and you shouldn't be looking :p Got smacked in the back of the head for that one lol.

    I was supprised that Lara being the younger female was targeted but hey you never know. For all I know Oushi has already been tagged.

    Now I really have to look into getting all 3 in their own tanks...
     
  4. DwarvenChef

    DwarvenChef Elite Member

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    My photographer is still on strike so you'll have to put up with my pic taking ability... :p

    Bluegenes and Lara hanging out "after"... Ya couldn't get the camera up fast enough...
     

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  5. DwarvenChef

    DwarvenChef Elite Member

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    This is how they will be set up, long ways in side by side.
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    These lids are split so that the opening is in the middle of the tank, keeping them from darting out the HUGE HOLE in the back of the tank when I have to reach in to work on the enclosure :p

    Well I finally got my special ordered tanks in :) Now each lizard will have their own territory lol
     

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  6. DwarvenChef

    DwarvenChef Elite Member

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    O-ushi's new home.

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    Lara's new home. New parts went in today so she has plants.

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    Bluegenes new diggs.

    Bluegenes (male) was none to pleased with getting grabbed and placed in a smaller (20gal) tank. He puffed up every time ANYONE walked near the tank LOL

    The girls, Lara and O-ushi, did the typical HIDE till things quieted down a bit, but are still a hair reclusive. They are not used to being out and not getting harrased so they are being shy'ish...

    I "recycled" all the plants and furnature I could through each tank so at least they had items that still smelled of home. I hope this speeds up the calming down time lol not betting on it though. While I was doing this it dawned on me why I didn't see them as excited about food as they used to be. Seems that some crix has collonized the huge log. Sending out young crix regularly LOL Than I moved a large upside down pan that was suposed to be a hide (never used by any lizard) I discovered a huge supprise, Dubia's... HUNDREDS of them had been breeding under that pan LOL seems that a couple must have survived :p Now I can't take apart the main 40gal untill I figure how to collect the bugs. Ugh...

    I put my mantis in there as bug control LOL see how long it takes to grow to adult size :p
     

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  7. DwarvenChef

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    I lucked out so big tonight, and my daughters cat gets to live another day...

    We got home and found the screen lid to Lara's tank caved in and Lara missing. My daughter emmediently hid the cat in the bathroom before I came in the Apt. I was seeing red for sure as I couldnt find Lara anywhere in the tank. Once I calmed down a fraction It accured to me that "up is out" so I looked everwhere just above the tank, sure enough there on the highest perch was Lara just hanging out with no damage.

    Lucky cat indeed... I placed a wire shelving unit shelf over the tanks to keep the cat off them, cats and wire shelves don't get along :) and it's strong enough to not buckle if the bag of dead skin jumps up there again.

    Can you tell I have no love for cats??
     

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  8. CentriRitanni

    CentriRitanni Elite Member

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    You clearly need this. I hate cats. If I had a cat, I would get an iguana just to pick on the cat. But I digress.

    Lucky Lara didn't demonstrate her ability to fit into small crevices! I am fortunate in that the only escapee I've ever had was a hermit crab who discovered he could climb the silicone in his tank. A fitted lid soon followed (after finding him on the back of the TV).
     
  9. DwarvenChef

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    Someone is getting heavier :)
     

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  10. DwarvenChef

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    Forgot about O-Ushi's new hollow log. I got this so she could lay flat and rest in the log instead of hang off the back of the fiber board... She pulled the fiber board out enough to get behind it again... Oh well at least she seems to be more social nw that there are more hides...
     

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  11. DwarvenChef

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    LOL today I picked up some wax worms at another place just for variation in diet, plus my local shop closed right before I got there... Lara and Bluegenes watched them for a few seconds and took the plunge and ate them up no problem. O-Ushi squished down in her cave watching it inch along untill it was right infront of her, pops up and bites and releases it as it falls out of her cave to the floor. She licks her lips and follows it over the edge and stares at it... She sure is acting goofy nowdays seems she may miss her sparing buddy...
     
  12. DwarvenChef

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    After the mirror experiment I decided to remove the visual barriers from between the tanks just to see the reactions to eack other...

    Bluegenes had a teenage moment, seeing the girls up close again (you know what I mean...) I thought he was going to have a hearattack :p

    The older female, O-Ushi, was more peeved at seeing Lara, the younger female, so close to her cave that she got all agrivated :p While Lara was more interested in what Bluegenes was up to.

    I have sence replaced most of the visual barriers between the tanks except for a slim clearing at the top of each tank. So when they are up top and sunning on the highest perches they can catch a glimps of each other. But only if they are high enough and don't move down to far.

    One posative note so far is that O-Ushi has come out of her cave and is activly hunting food, she always hid and waited for the food to come to her. Funny thing is that when the barriers where removed, and between Bluegenes spazz attacks, they would be after the bugs in the other tank... not seeing the ones right next to them LOL... Frigging goofballs...

    I'm going to be testing out different shapes of barriers for a while just to see if this keeps them from just veging out not moveing or anything. The interaction really seems to stimulate them into action or at least not being a couch potato...
     
  13. DwarvenChef

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    Well the first of the wax worm moths are popping out LOL and just as I expected these guys are going APE poopy over them. Soon as one pops up and flaps it's wings "BAMM" no more moth LOL Lara who has been rather finiky about food size has pulled out all the stops and is launching herself all over the tank for these moths, it's just to funny. I think I'll have to do this ever few months just for the fun of it. They sure seem to enjoy the acrobatics and their colors pop, I really wish I had the kids camara available at times...

    There goes another one... that sounded solid...
     
  14. klinger

    klinger Member

    I have not been on here in quite some time...but I am at work right now and my daughter just called me.... we are proud parents of 3 babies so far!!!!!!!!!!! whoo hooo!!!! :-"
    I have no choice but to leave them in with parents till tomorrow. What do u suggest for feeding?
    Also I have read people who have had great success leaving babies in with parents.
    What is your thought?
    the tank again is a 55 gallon very well planted live vivarium. Many hiding places, many climbing places but only one basking area. I could, given the size of the tank increase that to 2 spots if needed. What do you think?
     
  15. DwarvenChef

    DwarvenChef Elite Member

    In the short term I have heard of very few issues, as long as the male in that tank is daddy. Some spieces can sence "other" males young and tend to kill them for dominance of their own offspring. In general I don't like leaving males with young, females tend to be safer with their own young.

    A well planted 55 will help and really get another basking spot if your leaving the kids in there for any length of time. Competition for the basking spot tends to aggrevate males a bit...

    As for food, pin head crix and fruit flies, LOTS of them. These little guys will be mowing down a ton of food to get out of they "Dont Eat Me" stage of growth. Maybe not as much as beardies can put away but I'd plan on at least 10 bugs each a day if not more.

    If these are not immediently available in your area I'd be placing orders online ASAP, the babies have a couple days of yoke to obsorb than they are going to get nuts on the food.

    One important thing is humidity, these little guys are going to dehydrate FAST if the humidity is to low. Live plants help so try to heep it as high as posable, no lower that say 60-70%.

    A nursery can help tremendously, mine is a 5 galanon plastic tub with a devider. One side is full of multch kept very damp almost to dripping, the other side is just paper towel base with branches and a plastic plant. There is a small hole between the two sides and a small branch passing between the two sides so they can hide in the wet or mozy around in the branches and plant. This is just my idea of a nursery tank on the cheap and it's what I've seen others use to some degree. Hope this help :)
     
  16. klinger

    klinger Member

    Thank you so much... DwarvenChef
    It is certain that the male is daddy. Been with mom 2 years. She has had one clutch prior...in the pet store...pregnant when she arrived there. Then kept single and then with my male.
    If you set them up in a 5 gallon how do you regulate heat, without baking them. I am not even sure I could catch them honestly.
    I did buy pin heads and flightless fruitflys and they are loving the flys. I have regularly counted 3 possibly 4 babies.
    Around the water source there is 85-100% humidity then the rest of the tank ranges through down to 45 where mom likes to burrow.
    I did add another basking spot but do to cage set up. What do you recommend the temps for the babies be? Same as adults?
    I apologize for talking on your tread...there is so little info on breeding these guys. any info is helpful your tread is the best.:D
     
  17. DwarvenChef

    DwarvenChef Elite Member

    No apology needed :) I'm loving this exchange :) I would keep the new basking spot as clost to the other one as it seems to be working well for you :)

    I would LOVE to see pictures of your set up and babies :)
     
  18. klinger

    klinger Member

    I have tried posting a pic of dad and babies but it didnt upload.... I will try again....
    Update though there are 6 Babies!!!! :D 101_1425.jpg 101_1420.jpg
     
  19. Merlin

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  20. klinger

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    I will try to take some pics of a group of them but it is hard. 2-4 bask together and the other ones in another group so if I pan out you cannot see them in the photo.
    I have the 2nd basking on the opposite end of the tank. The temps are still good cause its such a large tank. I am thinking of leaving one on each end because the babies really congregate on that one side of the tank and dad hangs out on the other for the most part. Plus I have the water dish with the air stone in it and most of the plants on that end so the humidity is higher there.
    I will try this time to upload pic of whole tank. now 191.jpg now 189.jpg now 248.jpg
     

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