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Discussion in 'Kingsnakes' started by Jlassiter, Jul 10, 2012.

  1. Jlassiter

    Jlassiter Elite Member

    Been slow in here.....
    So here's some king photos I hope you enjoy...


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  2. justor

    justor Elite Member

    Awesome snakes as always! I love them all.
  3. Jlassiter

    Jlassiter Elite Member

    Thank you Justor...

    Can anyone name the species, subspecies and morph of each?
    Maybe that'll get some posting here...:confused:
  4. justor

    justor Elite Member

    Well since nobody else wants to guess I'll take a stab at it.

    The first two must be AZ mountain kings, the first one being albino. I'm not very good at specifically identifying the mexican kings, but I would guess the third, fifth and possibly the last one are mex mex. And I think number six is a Thayeri? If I had to guess the name of the morph on the last one I would have to guess granite. Pretty much every species of snake has a "granite" morph, and that looks like an appropriate name for that snake, but I don't know if that's what it's actually called.
  5. Jlassiter

    Jlassiter Elite Member

    Great try....
    Here are the answers:
    1. Amelanistic Queratero King (L. ruthveni)
    2. Santa Barbara California Mountain King (L. zonata multifasciata)
    3. San Luis Potosi King - Mex Mex (L. mexicana mexicana)
    4. Milk Snake Phase (MSP) Nuevo Leon King (L. mexicana leonis "thayeri")
    5. Partially Striped Mex Mex
    6. Leonis Phase "thayeri"
    7. Ultra Granite Mex Mex
  6. AjaMichelle

    AjaMichelle Elite Member

    Beautiful! :)
  7. Rich

    Rich Administrator Staff Member Premium Member

    Great pics, thanks for sharing!
  8. Jlassiter

    Jlassiter Elite Member

    Thank you AjaMichelle and Rich.....
  9. Melissa747

    Melissa747 Elite Member

    Can anyone tell me what morph king snake I have? I was told it was a reverse stripe but all the ones I've looked up are black and white.. and mine is yellow and brown. She has 3 bold stripes running down her whole body. The middle stripe is yellow and the bordering stripes are brown.
  10. Jlassiter

    Jlassiter Elite Member

    That is positively a coastal phase California king of the Newport/Longbeach strain......
    It is not a reverse stripe but rather normally striped....the newport line lead to the popular bananas we see now in the hobby.

    Brown is her ground color. She actually has one yellow dorsal stripe and two lateral yellow stripes......the lateral stripes are typically aberrant....

    Nice caliking....
  11. Melissa747

    Melissa747 Elite Member

    Ahhh, thanks so much! Petsmart wasn't very descriptive on her actual morph name. What's the difference between the hypo stripe and the coastal stripe?
  12. Jlassiter

    Jlassiter Elite Member

    There are 4 different genetic mutations called hypomelanistic (hypo) in California Kings.
    For western getula hypomelanism is when the black pigmentation (melanin) is reduced to gray/silver.....typically.
    Some are reduced to brown/mocha.

    This brings up the question you asked....Is a coastal phase a hypo?
    There is another similar question....Is a desert phase axanthic?

    Unless it is predictably reproducible genetically they are not hypomelanistic.......
    Their normal phenotype is simply polymorphic.....variable.

    So....a typical hypo california king is silver/gray instead of black/brown.......

    Hope this helped.....

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