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Discussion in 'Colubrids *General*' started by godzuki777, Mar 13, 2007.

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  1. godzuki777

    godzuki777 Elite Member

    I might get a green snake. I know that they don't adjust to captivity well but I still might get the snake. I would like to know if I could put 2 together. I have a 40 gallon tank.
  2. Lyn

    Lyn Elite Member

    If you mean the smooth or rough green snakes, then I have seen those sold in the petstores. They eat crickets so are easy to feed...I dont believe they have trouble adjusting to captivity from what I have heard....and Im not sure about keeping them together...of course there is always more than one in the tank in the petstores but that doesnt mean it is correct .....hope this helps.
  3. Merlin

    Merlin Administrator Staff Member Premium Member

    Most green snakes available are wild caught and do not adjust well to captivity.
    Even experienced hobbyists have difficulty keeping these for any length of time.
  4. BlackJack

    BlackJack Subscribed User Premium Member

    I had 2 smooth green snakes in California about 25 years ago. I was not very experienced then, and I kept 2 together. I bought them at a petstore, so they were probably wild-caught. They ate crickets (which I thought was an advantage, but bugs creep me out!)
    Mine adjusted very well to captivity. They seemed OK living together, but with the experience I have now, I would not recommend keeping any snakes together. They are solitary animals and don't need company.
    My green snakes were not aggressive and I handled them often.
    That was my experience... but every snake is different and I don't know if there is a difference in temperment between rough and smooth green snakes.
    They're pretty animals though!
  5. godzuki777

    godzuki777 Elite Member

    I was thinking rough green snakes, but I might get a smooth green snake. Are rough green snakes acualy rough or do they just look rough?
  6. cariba31

    cariba31 Active Member

    I´m not very experienced nor a herpetologist, but i do my homework, if you know what i mean. I also like green snakes, but a friend of mine, which is a herp specialist, told me that those snakes are very difficult to take care of.

    First of all they are insectivorous so you might thing that they should be easily fed with crickets only, what about you eating pizza all year or even just for a month at lunch and dinner time? It´s not a good idea, so you must provide other kind of bugs, and that´s not easy at all.

    I have a Cham a (Calyptratus) and ihave at home at least three different kind of bugs in order to fulfill is food needs.

    so as an advise think first if you have the expertise and the time and also the patiente to have such a snake, i´m sure that there are another species that you might enjoy, corns milks kings etc.

    Otherwise it will be another snake to die and i´m sure that´s not what you want.

    the choice is yours, but think first!

    good luck
  7. geckoguy14

    geckoguy14 Elite Member

    and if your simply not a fan of rodents, then i wouldnt get into snakes at all unless you can get over it long enough to feed your snakes regularly. It seems to me that its either one of three options for you....

    1)Get an insectivorous snake that may be too difficult for you or anyone else to keep in captivity for any length of time.
    2) Get a rodent eating snake like a corn, milk, or king and gain your experience with a starter species.
    3) forget snakes and buy an aquarium (its an awesome hobby by the way)

    this is my opinion but i would go with a smaller, beginner rodent-eating species that are far hardier and you will be able to learn from and enjoy much longer.
  8. godzuki777

    godzuki777 Elite Member

    i dont like rodents cuse i dont live near a pet store. all the pet stores that came here went out of busyness. i could get crickets cuse i there is a bait shope her for fishermen but i would use them for the snake. if i got a garter would they do okay on toads, earthworms, and red rosys?
  9. cariba31

    cariba31 Active Member

    as far as i know garter love fish, and some times also a mice!!!!

    and also some insects !

    once more you have a menu issue to solve godzuki
  10. ajvw

    ajvw Subscribed User

    You can get frozen rodents delivered by mail. They can actually be much cheaper than buying a few at a time at a petstore, and frozen/thawed prey is better for snakes than live prey anyway...

    I would be concerned about crickets from a bait store, in terms of what kinds of parasites they might carry, or chemicals they might be exposed to. But maybe that's not really an issue.
  11. BlackJack

    BlackJack Subscribed User Premium Member

    I would also be VERY concerned about using bait crickets as food for the snake. You really need healthy, nutritious, no-pesticide crickets as feeder animals. These are usually available at petstores: I don't know if you can order live crickets online to be delivered to your house, but that would be the better way to go than a bait shop.

    (I don't know if rough green snakes are rougher than smooth ones.) I had my green snakes for 4 years till I moved and gave them to a neighbour's teenager. I'm not sure how long they lived after that... they did well in my care. But the crickets were a drag!!! (I had to keep them alive and healthy during the week between feedings -- they were more work than the snakes!!!)

    My first snake was a WC Western garter snake. I bought frozen smelt fish at the grocery store and defrosted them as food for the snake which he always ate readily. (I was 11 and didn't know much about keeping snakes; since then I've learned that he would have done better with some variety in his diet; including the occasional mouse.)
  12. godzuki777

    godzuki777 Elite Member

    ok i might get a corn because my mom said that we can go to a pet store one or 2 times a month. were should i get it. petco has babies for $70 so i sort of dont want to go there for it. there is a store were i live in rochester that has lots of morphs and they are juveniles. i would want one of those but if there is a better place for getting one i will take suggestions.
  13. Merlin

    Merlin Administrator Staff Member Premium Member

    Locate a reptile expo. It will cost you 1/2 to 1/3 of what you will pay at a pet store and you are buying directly from the breeder. I see normal corns for $10-15 and morphs for $20 and up depending on what you are looking for.
    Look in the back of Reptiles Magazine under Coldblooded Events or just type in reptile shows or expos in your state in your search browser.
    What state do you live in. Maybe someone can point you in the right direction.
  14. godzuki777

    godzuki777 Elite Member

    i live in upstate new york state.
  15. Merlin

    Merlin Administrator Staff Member Premium Member

    I know they have a big one in White Plains but that is quite a ways from you.
  16. Merlin

    Merlin Administrator Staff Member Premium Member

    There is one coming up this weekend in Long island.
    Thats considerably closer
  17. godzuki777

    godzuki777 Elite Member

    long island is farther than white plains. there both way to far away. i would want one in buffalo or rochester.
  18. Merlin

    Merlin Administrator Staff Member Premium Member

    According to mapquest it is 333 miles from Rochester to White Plains and 93 miles from Rochester to Long Island. Thats only 20 miles further than from Rochester to Buffalo
    But regardless I don't remember seeing anything in Buffalo, and with NYC's restrictive laws regarding reptiles I doubt you will see one there.
  19. godzuki777

    godzuki777 Elite Member

    ok. ill check map quest. and thanks for all the help so far.
  20. godzuki777

    godzuki777 Elite Member

    check again. its about 350 miles to both places
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