I had an interesting experience this weekend. I went out pricing supplies for my enclosure set up and went to 2 stores in my area. One was a local place which started out with fish and expanded into birds and reptiles. The lizards are set up one or two in each cage, which is usually a 24X24X24 cube, except for a Uromastyx and Basalisk which were in 48X24X24 setups. I thought some of the enclosures might be too small, and they didn't have a very big selection of care sheets/literature, but they did inform me every animal was captive bred. The Bearded Dragons and Leopard Geckos are bred in-store, they display Adult specimens of the juveniles they sell, and they actually had adequate space for a russian tortoise. Then I went to Pet Supplies Plus. In this store they also had cubes- but only 8-10 inches. They were keeping things like milksnakes in that cramped area. Also, species were mixed, a pac man frog appeared to be expired, and the cages were filthy. The Coup de Grace was a snake with obvious calcium deficency advertised as a 'special needs' snake(!). Another Genius idea was stuffing a cockatiel in a 12X9X9 cage, with no room to spread it's wings. The real kicker- these places were across the street from each other. I'm sure that the manager could have an incognito look at the local place, realize their mistakes, and right the situation. But no, obviously they don't care. Frankly I am considering reporting them to the SPCA. Now, the local place wasn't optimal, and I am sure there are lots of things to complain about-the Uromastyx cage should be longer, for instance. But at least these people actually care about the animals. In short, one pet store needs some improvement, the other needs an intervention. At least I know not to shop at Pet Supplies Plus. - - - Updated - - - Sorry this was posted in the wrong section. The mods should move it.