i have one of my dragons arm waving and head bobbing and then lunging at the other their is no intimidation they are both getting uva/b rays evenly and are eating the same they are in a huge enclosure should I keep an eye out at them this has never happened I have had them together for like 2 months

Kingchris... I think we have all been warning you about this for like a zillion postings already. This is a display of domination and one of your dragons is going to end up hurting the other. You may need to separate - sad but true. This is why I am not taking chances with my females - they seem to get along just fine during visitation but both have their own enclosures separate from one another. Seems that one of your dragons is becoming territorial - the head bobbing, arm waving and lunging are basically telling your other dragon it is not welcomed. I'd get another enclosure soon... and should warn you that a zillion other people are going to have funny things to say about your latest post. Like I told you so. Good luck. :0)

kingchris... I just checked out your enclosure in the gallery. You do realize that you are dealing with a reptile that is going to get at least 3 feet long (if not larger)? Hate to break it to you but you are eventually going to need two much larger enclosures for your WDs. That is a real nice set up you have there. I can tell you put a lot of thought into that and really tried... but it is more ideal for a gecko than a WD. Did the petstore talk you into that one? They are not very knowledgable sometimes (or will even deceive you too... if it gets you out the door with a pet). I would suggest that you do as I did (because I am by all means not a PRO)... that you research enclosures very carefully and do a little more reading up on what to expect with your WDs as well. That way... you can get prepared for the growth spurt that is quickly approaching (while you have a little time to do so). Good luck and may the force be with you. :0)

na thts not my enclosure I have a way bigger one it is 3x3x4 feet big that was my 20 gal from while back

I agree with sapphire. You are GOING to have to separate them.

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kingchris - You should note that WDs are arboreal - that means they love to be up high on a tree or a vine. An enclosure with 5 to 6 ft in highth is ideal. My girls are currently (each) in enclosures that are 6 ft high / 3 ft long / 3 ft wide. I am now building larger enclosures as we speak to give them more room to play (6 ft high / 6 ft long / 3 ft wide). I am curious to know what size tank you would keep an alligator in? :0P

I agree with Sapph, they are going to need a much higher enclosure with a large pool type section at the bottom.

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Like the others have said, the head bobbing is a clear sign of dominance. I believe, however, that the arm waving is actually a submissive gesture. At least that was what I had read. I could be wrong about that, though.

It's likely that if your dragons are displaying these behaviors, they are trying to establish who is the dominant male. I'm going to take a guess that you've seen both of them pull these moves at one time or another when they're interacting together. I'm also going to take a guess that feeding time is probably when the behavior gets the most aggressive. Unfortunately, it looks like you've got two males on your hands, and two males almost always end up going through the wringer with dominance issues.

The lunging is a dangerous, aggressive movement that will lead to physical altercation in the future. They are going to fight. As long as they are together, there will be nothing you can do to prevent this.

You have a couple of options, though, to keep them safe and well. One is, as everyone else has stated, start construction on a second cage and separate them. The second is to expand your current enclosure and section it off so that the two dragons have no contact with each other. This means that within each section they need to have the proper lights, heat gradient, etc., but sometimes this solution is a bit easier on the pocket and space in your home. The third thing you can do is find a new home for one of your dragons. If you absolutely have to have two in the same cage, find a breeder and make sure you can get a female of equal size with the male and then go through the quarantine process, gradually putting them together on a trial basis to see if they will get along without strong dominance issues.

We're not trying to make you angry with these suggestions, but we do want to see the animals get the best care they possibly can. Right now the best thing for them is to have their own space before they start having problems that prevent them from eating or make them sick. You have time to catch it early. It's a good thing.

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I really think it is too early to sex kingchris' WDs... his photo gallery appears to be photos of nearly hatchling size - still VERY small. I did not have the head bobbing and arm waving until MUCH later... and, I have two females. Also, as it appears that kingchris is new to this... maybe a male/female situation is not best right now. He is struggling with two WDs... we do not want to chance offspring until he becomes a PRO. And, I also am not saying this to be mean... I've said this to my own friends - a WD is a full time job and takes knowledge and lots of care. From what I have seen kingchris is still trying to get his very young little guys figured out. My friend was shocked to find out the cute little green thing that was no larger than a gecko... was an actual dragon that would grow HUGE. The petstores will usually not volunteer this key piece of information... for fear of scaring you off. kingchris - did you realize this when you got your WDs (just curious)?

I don't know how you could say that this is not intimidation(or more correctly dominance) If I came running at you with my arm pulled back and my hand in a fist would you not consider that intimidation?
You need to seperate those lizards before this escalates and one is injured or killed.

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