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    Our Uro was purchased about two years ago with a Leopard Gecko. We had to purchase them together because, when separated, they would cease to eat. Of course, this posed a problem as the gecko requires a moist habitat and the Uro requires a dry one. We included a small bowl of water for the gecko until the Uro decided she would drag her tail through it. We had never had the problem of her walking through it until this last week and low and behold her tail has become a light greyish color ( she is normally completely ebony ), and it appears rather flaky.

    We are devising a way to move the water dish underneath the sand in a fake cavern for the gecko and know that should prevent any further damage to the Uro.

    However, now there is the problem of helping her with her tail. It is not advanced in the sense that it has not been there for more than four or five days, but we are currently unable to afford a Vet visit. I have heard from many forums that Neosporin placed on the tail will help cure the 'infection', 'bacteria' or whatever it may be. Is this safe and has anyone had positive results?

    There is also a product that I have heard mention of called 'Rot Guard'. Is this something that may be of use in this situation?


    I do not want it to progress any farther, as I love this little lizard and she is normally fat and healthy. I would like to avoid any need for amputation or farther spreading.

    Thank you for your time and help!






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    Re: Possible Tail Rot and Treatment

    I don`t think dragging the tail through a bowl of water would cause tail-rot, nor would it happen so quickly, are you sure the lizard isn`t just shedding the skin? Do you have a photo you can put up, and I must say housing these two animals together is the wrong thing to do, as you say, they require completely different habitats. Can you give details of temps etc and type of heating/lighting, size of enclosure? Thanks!

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    Re: Possible Tail Rot and Treatment

    I don't have a working camera, so I will describe this as best as I can:

    The tank is, I believe, a 55 gallon breeder-tank. On the left side of it there are several of those foamy fake caverns that are made for geckos. They make a whole extra level underneath the sand. On top of those ( and around them ) there are a few fake hollow rocks and logs, and a fake plant. This is where we used to keep the water. There is only a blacklight above this area and it stays about 10 degrees cooler than the rest of the tank.

    On the right there is lots of substrate. I'm not sure what kind my boyfriend put in, but he says it should be safe for her. She sleeps and hides in a very large hollow rock (and basks on the same one)and has one other choice for rocks on that side. This main rock is right beneath a UV light and next to the UV light is a heat lamp. Depending on the house temperature, this half of the tank stays between 85-110 during the day.

    The tail is difficult to describe. It's on the last portion of the tail, to the point and her spikes seem rather dull compared to before. That's about all I can describe.

    I am unsure about what she looks like when she sheds...She has only ever shed once and that was right after we got her. We bought her when she was a light grey color and it was easy to tell because the grey just came off and suddenly she was black. So, that is a welcomed idea!

    I hope this helps! I'm rather verbose and do apologize for that.

    Thank you!

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    Re: Possible Tail Rot and Treatment

    I agree, I don' think tail rot would have developed from simply the tail being in water. I have two bearded dragons, one which had tail rot. Usually i starts from someone nipping at the tail and an infection can get in and spread. I used neosporin and a bandage at first. While this prevented the tail from rubbing up against anything to cause further rotting of scales, my other Bearded Dragon went to bite it and almost ate the band aid. Now, I am using a liquid bandage (non-toxic). This has an antisepic in it and since then the tail-rot is completely fixed. IF this is the case with your uro, then I recommend the liquid bandage. But like I said, water on the tail should not cause tail-rot.

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    Re: Possible Tail Rot and Treatment

    Our Uro was purchased about two years ago with a Leopard Gecko. We had to purchase them together because, when separated, they would cease to eat. Of course, this posed a problem as the gecko requires a moist habitat and the Uro requires a dry one.
    No they don't. Leopard geckos do not require a moist environment. They require a moist "hide" so they can shed easier. The leopard gecko shouldn't be using the water bowl for anything other than drinking. (The same as the Uro.)

    We included a small bowl of water for the gecko until the Uro decided she would drag her tail through it. We had never had the problem of her walking through it until this last week and low and behold her tail has become a light grayish color ( she is normally completely ebony ), and it appears rather flaky.
    It sounds as if she is shedding to me. She may be having a bad shed and is using the water to help loosen the stuck shed. It 100% isn't tail rot if she just got it wet walking through it last week.

    We are devising a way to move the water dish underneath the sand in a fake cavern for the gecko and know that should prevent any further damage to the Uro.
    Truthfully you should separate the 2 animals. They have different housing needs and temps, and the gecko shouldn't be on sand at all. One or both of those species are not being housed properly. I can assure you that if you separated them, they would eat after a day or 2. They do not have the same emotional connections that humans have. If they stop eating, correct the temps and humidity. It isn't because they need the other.

    However, now there is the problem of helping her with her tail. It is not advanced in the sense that it has not been there for more than four or five days, but we are currently unable to afford a Vet visit. I have heard from many forums that Neosporin placed on the tail will help cure the 'infection', 'bacteria' or whatever it may be. Is this safe and has anyone had positive results?
    Neosporin will not cure tail rot if you actually have that. It may help slow it down, but I have never heard of it curing tail rot. (I have been online now for 10+ years.)

    There is also a product that I have heard mention of called 'Rot Guard'. Is this something that may be of use in this situation?
    I have never used it, so I won't comment on how effective it is.

    I do not want it to progress any farther, as I love this little lizard and she is normally fat and healthy. I would like to avoid any need for amputation or farther spreading.
    The first thing I would do is separate the 2 lizards. The Uro should be placed in a quarantine type setup until you figure out and treat whatever is wrong.

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    Re: Possible Tail Rot and Treatment

    Hi again, thanks for the details, it`s very difficult when there`s no photo to look at! If the animal has only ever shed once in 2 years, there is something very wrong with conditions in the enclosure, and separating them would not stop them from eating?
    I think the best thing you can do right now would be put the gecko in another (smaller) tank, with the appropriate set-up. As far as the tail, it sounds as if it`s getting ready to shed, but of course I`m just guessing by the description you give. Sorry, we all seem to be answering at the same time!

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    Re: Possible Tail Rot and Treatment

    Unfortunately, I have already attempted separating them and ended up with a 200$ Vet bill due to malnutrition. I understand the conditions are not super, and I also understand that lizards are lizards. No need to dumb down anything for me! But thank you for the information.

    The gecko is not on sand. She does not come up for anything but water. Everything is on these fake cavers, which are not combined with sand.

    I will assume that it is shedding. The only reason that I question is because all published online information I have scanned suggested a water bowl in the enclosure could cause this and that it is a matter to be concerned of.

    I appreciate the information, however lacking in politeness. Thank you for your time!

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    Re: Possible Tail Rot and Treatment

    i am curious about this set up you have. any way you can post a pic? and i know everyone has repeatidly told you to seperate the animals and i hate to do the same but.. well it should be done. if you could replicate the space/surroundings each animal has in the combined enclosure into the two seperate enclosures and get the proper temps, etc as well as stick to their normal feeding schedules i bet they would do even better than they are now.
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    I appreciate the information, however lacking in politeness. Thank you for your time!
    no one on this thread was rude to you though. you asked a question and everyone gave you an answer. how is this rude?

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    Re: Possible Tail Rot and Treatment

    No one here was trying to be rude, text is often misinterpreted! Considering a lot of the members here come from arund the world and english is a second language (or they don't speak english and are using translators) often times posts here are really more focused on just getting the information accross as soon and clearly as possible! We are urgent about things we feel are important for the safety of the animal, not for the sake of being mean or judgemental of the owner.. Sometimes the urgency comes off as rudeness.. Many owners here have lost pets or seen pets die because of poor conditions, so when a problem is spotted people like to try to fix it as soon as possible! I'm sorry you had a negative experience, but people here are always around to give information, and really no one means anything to be taken the wrong way, but really are just here to help people with their animals as best they can! I hope you will continue to be a part of this forum, and maybe later experiences will be less negative and you can enjoy the community with your animals who will hopefully live happy healthy long lives!
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    Re: Possible Tail Rot and Treatment

    All the tail rot that I have seen ends up with the tail looking "burnt"
    As if it was turning to charcoal and spikes coming off.
    Not to say that it all looks like this just what I've come across.
    I would say it sounds like shedding as well.
    Unfortunately curing tail-rot is quite difficult. It is a bacterial infection and you need quite specific medication to combat it.

    Also I hate to say it but the conditions you have been keeping them in are likely responsible for their decline in health.
    Uros require very high basking spots which would be unhealthy for the Leopard gecko (130 deg+)
    This temps also help the Uro to dry out completely which helps eliminate the onset of tail-rot.
    There is very little accurate info on the internet about this condition as I spend a lot of time researching it a few yrs ago. Perhaps there are is more info now. But the issue is that very few people will spend money like you have to take them to a qualified vet and report back.
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