i hate to say it, but a human digestive track is much different than that of a uro, so not giving a uro what it should have, because it may give a human gas makes no sense.

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i do understand your point and im not just baseing this on human gas not shure if a lizard can even have gas but however I have talked to others on other forums in the past and talked to people at my local zoo and from what I know its best to keep in moderation and not as a staple. same with mustard and kale. and there is also no proof if you dont give your uro any of these items that its depriving him of anything. there are many foods I feed mine and grow alot being that I live in florida and I am shure his diet is just fine. you dont have to take the advise I give thats the beauty of the forums.

i have never had a herp fart...but plenty of snakes peeing on me..*the worst smell ever*..and my dog cheeto farts alot..but thats about it

lmao I thought I heard a funny noise from my mali once I thought to be a fart but I cant confirm that. again this is personall preference however if you never feed mustard kale or collard greens to you uro he will not be lacking anything as long as you stick with the other items then everything is fine.

Iguanas definitely fart, but only when it puts their owners in socially awkward situations, like when you are trying to convince people that they aren't dirty animals...or when you are trying to take a short video or when they are on your shoulder... Every time I swear.

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I agree that what causes gas in humans could have different effects when introduced in the digestive system of a Uro. It could react the same as gas is caused by swallowed air and undigested plant matter creating a mix of vapours. Nitrogen, oxygen , carbon dioxide, hydrogen and sometimes methane are the culprits. With methane of course being the stink in the concoction.

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I don't know. I think I'll have to do some extra research before I'll delegate collards or mustards to an occasional-only food. I've been looking up information on it, and so far everything seems to say that they're good as staples.

I'll keep trying to find things against them. If you guys know of any, can you point me in their direction?

I really am just trying to find out what's best for them. Urorex, who was it that you talked to at the zoo?

I'd definitely agree that if you feed them endive, escarole and dandelion greens you don't need collards or mustards, but I'll argue that the opposite is true as well. If you feed collards and mustards, it won't hurt them not to have endive and escarole. Still this is based mostly on my experience with the improvement of health in my uro from the time I adopted him until now, and the research I've done so far. And so is yours I suspect.

Part of the beauty of having reptiles, I suppose. There is a lot of information out there to sift through.

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sorry I didnt take his name at the zoo. it was a question I gave to one of the reptile keepers and no it wasnt one of the customer service or tour people. I am shure it was a keeper of reptiles.

Also saying you can feed mustard and collard and throw in escarole and endive is kinda a dumb thing to say as the water to leaf ratio of escarole is better then dandalion, endive mustard or collard. so I think if escarole is not part of the staple then you are taking water away from your uro. I have done research on there food too which also includes calcium to phosphourous ratios and water to fiber ratio and what vitamins do they offer. Did you know hybiscus flower is allmost 90% water. however the leaf is only 20%. So for a Uro who is laking water a hybiscus flower would help them.

I agreee there is plenty of info out there and I would say most of us are not professionals. I also do a ton of research on my herps. I have gone so far to call and write Animal planet tv channel and also I have written to jeff Corwins show to see if they can start to feature more shows with lizards in mind. you see a ton of Gators and Snake shows but hardly any about lizards. BTW I also met Corwin at another zoo and he is a pretty cool dude.

Not saying im right just saying what I experience and what I have researched.

Cool. Just wanted to make sure. Not everyone who works at a zoo actually knows what they are talking about.

Not sure where you're going with this one, though. Not feeding them escarole isn't necessarily depriving them of water. The water ratio may be lower, but making enough food available to them also makes enough water available, as does soaking their food when preparing it.

If they were on limited food reserves, I'd definitely say that would be a factor to take into consideration. It would really count. I'm not sure the same can be said of a continual food supply specially prepared, though.

I suppose I see it like getting stuck in the desert with only a canteen for water. In that case whether you had a small canteen or a large canteen would make a huge difference. But at home when you have a continual supply of water, the size of the glass you use doesn't matter so much, because there's always more available.

I can see where you're coming from, though.

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nobody knows here exactly how much water a uro needs on a daily or weekly basis. so actually you can feed it all the mustard greens you want or collards and you will never know if your depriving it of water or not. i just assume the escarole having the best water to fiber to vitamin ratio then any of the other greens mentioned (that is fact by the way) that it should be first on the list to feed as a staple.