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04-11-2008, 02:10 AM
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Mixing Tree Frogs with Terrestrial Frogs

This may be a stupid question... but I'm new to this. I know you shouldn't mix frogs that have to compete for territory, but I was wondering if you could mix tree frogs with terrestrial frogs (not darts) of the same size.

By the way... what are fantasy frogs, saw some for sale and can't find any info on them. Thanks!

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Re: Mixing Tree Frogs with Terrestrial Frogs

A fantasy frog is almost, if not, the same as a Pacman frog.
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Re: Mixing Tree Frogs with Terrestrial Frogs

"Fantasy frog" is a name given to the South American horned frog hybrids. South American horned frogs (incorrectly labeled as "pacman" frogs by many pet suppliers) belong to the genus Ceratophrys. The original fantasty frogs were a cross between Ceratophrys cornuta (Suriname horned frog) and Ceratophrys cranwelli (Cranwell's horned frog). But now the name is often incorrectly applied to any Ceratophrys hybrid, such as either of those species mixed with C. ornata (Argentine horned frog). Due to the more distinct appearance of the Suriname horned frog compared to the others, it should be relatively easy to detect if the hybrid truly contains that species or not.

That said, you could probably just get a regular ol' horned frog cheaper than you'd pay for one of the hybrids. I believe the Argentine horned frog is the most common, also known as the ornate horned frog. Cranwell's horned frogs are also somewhat common, but Surinames are not.

As for mixing frogs, most people will tell you not to mix species at all. But to be completely honest, it is possible if you do it right. I still don't recommend it, but I'm also not going to lie and say it's destined for failure. However, I would NOT mix a horned frog with anything else. It's still way easier and safer to just stick with one species per habitat. Horned frogs will eat almost anything, and occasionally try to eat things too big to swallow. But even if you don't consider horned frogs, there's more to mixing species than just size. There's temperament, skin toxins, sociability, temperature, humidity, diet, eating habits, territorial behavior, mating behavior, and so on.
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Re: Mixing Tree Frogs with Terrestrial Frogs

Thanks for all the info! Ummm... yeah, I'll probably just stick to one species just to be on the safe side.

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Re: Mixing Tree Frogs with Terrestrial Frogs

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Thanks for all the info! Ummm... yeah, I'll probably just stick to one species just to be on the safe side.
With most species it's best. Really the only frogs I would recomend that have done well in groups are darts from the same area, But from other genus. I had a large tank a while back and had E. tricolor, D. ventrimaculatus, and Phyllobates vittatus. Important is that each likes a diffrent area of a tall cage from ground, to middle, to I'll never touch dirt if I don't have to. I heard some success with keeping Red eyes and other tree frogs but I wouldn't really risk it.

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Re: Mixing Tree Frogs with Terrestrial Frogs

The only frogs that can do OK with Red-eyes are clown frogs. Only because they are the same size and come from the same habitat.

But saying that, Mixing species is not for the beginner. If one were to mix, I would say you need an EXTRA large enclosure, which is harder to maintain with temps, humidity, etc...

Mixing, good for zoos, not for the beginner.

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Re: Mixing Tree Frogs with Terrestrial Frogs

And it is much simpler to deal with learning the husbandry skills of one species at a time!
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