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03-10-2008, 08:43 PM
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Re: Bambam
looking at the pictures he does look a bit dehydrated, i think adding a plant would be a great idea to start, as for lights, Plants require a photoperiod, but idealy you would already have that going on for the frogs, if you don't, use a lamp timer (about $6 at home depot) to provide 12 hours on 12 hours off, water per the plants needs, as for soil i would suggest finding 100% organic potting soil (make sure its fuully organic with no fertilizers, ect.) and mixing some in with the eco earth, i think most people would suggest a 50/50 mix. What kind of setup do you have, glass aquarium screen lid?, something else? if your using a screen lid on a glass enclosure i'd also suggest using a piece of plexi glass, or something else water retentive to cover part of the screen up.
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03-11-2008, 06:12 AM
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Re: Bambam
this is my viv
it is on a timer so that's covered.
what should I do to get him rehydrated?
is there a bulb that I can use for heat and uv?
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03-11-2008, 08:30 AM
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Re: Bambam
Frogs don't require UVB like basking lizards do. They're nocturnal, so they tend to hide from the sun (nature's UVB source). I would use a lower wattage of bulb, just a normal 40 watt house bulb will do. If you can accomplish the proper temperatures with fluorescent light, that's even better. Also, use more substrate and get it moist. Cover most of the lid with plastic or duct tape or something (on the outside). This will trap a lot of humidity. And more plant cover, especially live plants (as you mentioned).
Pothos and philodendrons are great. Make sure you remove all the soil from the plant and replant it. Also, rinse the whole plant and roots VERY well. Gently wash it, and you may even want to leave it in a new clean pot for a few weeks before you finally add it to the habitat. Nearly all potted plants come with chemicals in the soil and on the plant, such as plant food, fertilizer, pesticide, etc. These are all very harmful to your frogs, more so than to reptiles. It's important to get rid of all chemicals.
In the mean time, mist the cage often, moisten and deepen the substrate, cover that lid up, possibly change your heat source, and keep the water dish well filled with dechlorinated water. I use Reptisafe (a blue liquid made by Zoo Med) to treat my amphibians' water. In addition to removing harmful elements, it also adds electrolytes, which will help hydrate your frog.
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03-11-2008, 09:32 AM
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Re: Bambam
Like Matt said, you should add more substrate. You want 1.5-2" at least. The thicker the layer of substrate is the slower it will dry out. If you get a bag of the miracle grow organic potting soil and add that, you should have a thick enough mixture to plant plants in. I would go at least 2" in order to have room for the roots of the plants... The light that you have on there should be good for the plants, most indoor plants do not require a LOT of light... Also like Matt said, cover as much of the screen top as you can without keeping the light out.
In the mean time, get a bigger water dish in there today! and mist anytime you have the chance. You can also give bambam a bath in the sink. Fill the sink with warm, but not to warm water and just let him soak for 20-30 min. The dish you have in there is not big enough for him to really soak....
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03-11-2008, 10:02 AM
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Re: Bambam
I would say 3-4 inches at least for soil. This will help 100% with humidity. I would suggest a pothos, they are very hardy and hard to kill. You can get them in a number of sizes, check out your local Home Depot or other store. Sometimes grocery stores have nice ones as well. They will do just fine under your current lighting and will just need to be watered once a week. Pretty easy.
Yes, you can plant directly into the eco-earth, but I do mix my eco earth with ORGANIC potting soil.
Go to your store and see what tropical house plants they have. Look for medium or high light plants, they will do the best. Pick out what you want. Although not all "colored" leaves are toxic, stay away from them is the easiest thing to do. Think GREEN.
Yes and you need a bigger water dish in there NOW. Heck, a simple cereal bowl filled up to the right amount will do. And if you put it under the light, it will evaporate and cause more humidity.
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03-12-2008, 03:33 AM
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Re: Bambam
the dish I have in there is the size of two cereal bowls. i can fit 5 bambabms in there comfortably haha. its good trust me.
the light I have is fine, it keeps it around 84.
tomorrow i'm going to get everything set up. i'll post pictures when i'm done.
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03-12-2008, 09:42 AM
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Re: Bambam
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the dish I have in there is the size of two cereal bowls. i can fit 5 bambabms in there comfortably haha. its good trust me.
the light I have is fine, it keeps it around 84.
tomorrow i'm going to get everything set up. i'll post pictures when i'm done.
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The dish you have might be big enough in diameter but you want something that is deeper. Give them a couple inches deep in order to get a really good soak.
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Re: Bambam
I'm quite new to all this, but I was having humidity issues as well with my viv. I have three american green tree frogs and two white's. Different vivs of course. I had to mist almost every hour like you're discribing. I was scared to go to work or to sleep. I would find my self waking up in the middle of the night checking on my frogs. I didn't want live plants because I am so new to this, I didn't want anything thrown into the mix that might cause more problems than solutions.
Anyway. I decided to try a cool mist humidifier I found at Home Depot for $13. I've seen th same one at other stores for $39. It has a variable humidity control so you can adjust the humidity level. It's even shaped like a frog. I modified the top of humidifier so I could feed the mist though a hose directly into the viv. It works awesome. I can keep the humidity at a fairly consistent 65-70% all the time. I still give the guys a spray with the spray bottle now and again. I still monitor it closely,but I've have had this setup for about two and a half weeks and it seems to have no ill effects so far.
I'll try to take some pics and post them so you can see what I'm talking about.
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03-12-2008, 11:06 AM
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Re: Bambam
thats great you were able to custom build something. Live plants are easy though! Some thrive in the exact setup a frog needs.
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03-12-2008, 04:42 PM
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Re: Bambam
yeah I had said in another post that on another forum they show you how to make one. it's like 7 bucks to make. if the plants don't work(i just think it would be neat to do live plants) then i'll check that out.
the bowl is a good 2 1/2 to 3 inches deep. it's fine
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