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02-16-2007, 01:09 AM
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i want a tree frog
i wanted a tree frog but I dont want one that is going to be hiding all day and only come out at night. what are some species of tree frogs that are up in the day? are there any? i also am looking for a frog that is pritty hardy. im new at keeping frogs and I dont want one that is to difficult. i have a Chinese Water Dragon and I dont think that kepping him is to hard. so something similar or with easier requirements is preferable. does any one know of any tree frogs like that? also half the reason I dont want a noctunal is because I dont like the red light and cant find an other type that is bright enough for night time veiwing. does any one know of a good nocturnal bulb? ivew been looking online but when ever I type in tree frog all it comes up with is red eyed and whites pritty much thats why im asking here because I know I wont only here those types.
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02-16-2007, 01:20 AM
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Phew, you've got some high demends I'm afraid. There are very very few diurnal amphibians, and I can't think of any tree frogs that would be. The idea behind the red light is that it's not too bright, so I'm also afraid that any light bright enough to allow the viewing you want also defeats the purpose of a nocturnal bulb. Tree frogs will sometimes be active during the day, but they're really not active creatures generally, even at night. There's just not a lot for them to do. Oriental fire-bellied toads (Bombina orientalis) on the other hand, are at least somewhat diurnal and relatively active by amphibian standards.
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02-16-2007, 01:34 AM
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i had a feeling that there werent any tree frogs that werent nocturnal because I have been doing research and they all see to be. what I mean by I dont like the red bulb is I dont like the color really and was wondering if there was some type of different colored light or something out there like that or if I could just use a black light. (i have one of those long tube ones.) i like the way that most of the tree frogs look and thats what really attracts me. i also have a ten gallon that I would be using to house so what is the best for this size tank? the help is really appreciated.
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02-16-2007, 01:49 AM
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The reason nocturnal lights are generally red is because infrared light is less visible to most amphibians, thus rendering the light more invisible than it appears to us. A good way to see if the light is doing its job is to observe the animal's pupils. If the pupils stay dilated, as they would be in the dark, then the light is working properly. If the pupils contract into slits or smaller circles, as they do during the day, then the light is pointless because the animal's eyes are reacting to it.
If by blacklight you mean one of the deep purple ones that causes white to glow and is used for many decorative blacklight posters and paint, then I'm afraid you can't use it. Its rays can be harmful over long periods of time. There are nocturnal "black lights" out there though, which are not the same thing and marketed for use as nocturnal heat sources in herp keeping. I've never used them though.
There are many small species of tree frog or other amphibian that will fit well in a 10 gallon aquarium. If possible it's preferred you find a way to set up the aquarium vertically for tree frogs though, seeing as how they're arboreal. Green tree frogs and tiger-legged monkey frogs are two species that are small enough to house in a 10 gallon and are also frequently available. Most other small species would have to be found at a herp show.
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i think im going to look more into a whites tree frog they look pretty cool and dont seem to need to much how big should a tank for one of these be? i looked and all I can find is varied sizes some say 10 some say 20 some say 25 and 30. i know bigger is better but what is the minimum? also how aboral is this type? are they more terrestrial? or are they just all over the place? and yes I was talking about one of those black lights that change white and other florescent colors
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They're one of my favorite tree frogs to keep, but I didn't mention them because a 10 gallon is too small. I generally recommend 25-30 gallons, 20 at the bare minimum. They're one of the largest tree frogs in the world and need more space, not just for moving around but also to provide a decent temperature gradient. Mostly just for moving around though. As with all tree frogs, they are pretty much entirely arboreal. I can't think of any tree frogs that prefer to spend a lot of time on the ground. If they existed, they wouldn't be tree frogs, they'd just be frogs  That type of lifestyle would render the need for adhesive discs on their fingers less practical, so any tree frog you find is going to be arboreal. Like most other tree frogs, White's aren't that good at swimming either and will usually try and reach land as soon as possible if they fall in a deep body of water.
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i see would a ten gallon be sufficient for a juvy? and then a upgrade later on
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I guess truthfully it could be if you got a small enough juvenile, but I always recommend getting the proper size right from the start so there's no need to upgrade later. It's less stressful on the animal and ensures you have everything you need before you even get the animal. It's also a lot less expensive in the long run if you just buy the larger enclosure to begin with instead of constantly upgrading, but seeing as how you already have the 10 gallon on hand that wouldn't really be as much of an issue. If you can provide everything the frog needs and upgrade to a larger enclosure as soon as possible then there's really little practical reason why you couldn't keep a juvenile in a 10 gallon. When you do buy the larger habitat you will also need to add more and larger climbing branches and such as well.
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i agree with your view and the only reason I would use the ten at first would be becasue I already have it. and I was wondering how much a 20 or 25 gallon would run me for? also would one of those exo terra enclosures be a good choice for a perminat home?( the all glass with doors that open to the front)
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Hmm, there's no screen on them at all? Although solid enclosures hold humidity better, something with a screen lid or a screen front will allow better ventilation. Does it have any ventilation system at all?
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