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Storeria Dekayi... I Think? Need Suggestions.

Discussion in 'Snakes - General' started by ThatCrowGirl, Jan 28, 2012.

  1. ThatCrowGirl

    ThatCrowGirl Member

    I don't know about you guys, but this winter is absolutely crazy. I'm from NY, moved to TN and I KNOW this just isn't right. Anyway, I was out in the garden today and came across this little guy. I thought he might be dead as its January - but when I touched him he moved. I picked him up (because I have the worst habit of doing that) and carried him inside to warm up a little. Now I don't know whether to release him now, or care for him until the weather gets a little warmer. I could place him in my "basement" (read as dirt filled room under the house that has access to the outside) but the landlord sprays the outside of the house (and possibly that area) for pests. I'd rather not poison him when he's obviously trying so hard to survive. I hate to be sentimental but thats how it goes. I currently have him in a 10G tank with a small rain water pool, moss, tree bark, leaves & a heating pad (underneath - over which I placed a small piece of slate so as not to burn himself). He seems quite active now and bold if I might not say so myself!

    I tried to add a photo, it might not let me because I'm new. If anyone can help with that I'd love to show him off.
     
  2. ThatCrowGirl

    ThatCrowGirl Member

    This should work... brownsnake.jpg
     
  3. JoeyG

    JoeyG Subscribed User Premium Member

    Most wild snakes unless badly injured do just fine in their natural enviorments. They're adapted to the conditions already. Putting them in a foreign enviorment may actually stress them out more then suffering a few cold nights. I see your dilema with holding on to him but he would do better outside. Once temps go up a little I would release him somewhere safe. That's just me.. :)
     
  4. beth96c

    beth96c Active Member

    I know how you feel the weather has been quite bizarre. I keep finding dead snakes that have mostly likely come out brumation because of the warm weather and then die when everything re freezes. Personally I would keep him in as natural of an enviroment as you can,(can you post pictures of his habitat as soon as you can?) I would try not to bother him to much until everything for sure heats up in spring and you can release him safely, Ive kept Dekayi's before and they seem pretty happy on a diet of earthworms, and if you can get your hands on them some slugs and snails.
     
  5. Infernalis

    Infernalis Elite Member

    That is in fact a Storeria Dekayi , my screen name at kingsnake is dekaybrown.

    turn off the heat, room temp is plenty. They are a cool climate snake.

    If it will eat some earthworms for you, they actually make awesome captives.

    I can even get them to eat from my hand.

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  6. ThatCrowGirl

    ThatCrowGirl Member

    There isn't enough debris in his tank yet, but I'll take a pic anyway - any advice is appreciated. I certainly intend on letting him live in the wild, I just happen to have a few tanks on hand from some rodents I used to keep. I threw in a couple earthworms earlier, I don't expect him to eat from the shock but I will look for snails, they're abundant here. My biggest concern is that my cats find him fascinating and while he has hiding places, he may feel intimidated by them.

    The whole tank: tank.jpg

    Him hiding: intank.jpg
     

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  7. mld

    mld Subscribed User Premium Member

    What a cute little guy!
     
  8. ThatCrowGirl

    ThatCrowGirl Member

    I'm waiting for my other comment to be approved with links to the tank set up, not ignoring you guys! This snake is a little over a foot long and already has figured out corners mean freedom. I can not find my cage clips to save my life, so the lid is being weighted with a giant world atlas. Which is helping to keep the cats off the lid. I don't think she's strong enough to get out, but snakes are amazing escape artists from what I remember. Do any of you know about sexing them? I've read that females have longer bodies than males and their heads are shorter than males... I also understand from my experience it can be absolutely impossible without having them sexed by a specialist.
     
  9. Infernalis

    Infernalis Elite Member

    .. get me a nice clean photograph, I'll tell you with fairly decent certainty if you have a boy or a girl.
     
  10. ThatCrowGirl

    ThatCrowGirl Member

    Do you need a ventral or dorsal pic? What specifics are you looking for? Full body length? Close up head shot?
     
  11. Infernalis

    Infernalis Elite Member

    1. full body shot
    2. close up tail shot

    Something for a size reference, like a dollar bill, or bic lighter.

    With this species, the males are very slender with a gradual tail taper, and the females are about twice as thick with a fast tail taper.

    They bear live young, and momma can have 20-30 live babies in a single litter, so she's a lot beefier than the boys are.
     
  12. Infernalis

    Infernalis Elite Member

    I just dug up a baby picture...

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  13. ThatCrowGirl

    ThatCrowGirl Member

    Oh!! So itty bitty!!!! AW! I see my post from yesterday hasn't been approved yet. Does it normally take a little bit? Should I try to post the links again? I will try to get a good photo today, the snake is over 12 inches long and not really wide but I have nothing to compare it to.
     
  14. ThatCrowGirl

    ThatCrowGirl Member

    Ok, here is a picture of the tail.
    DSC_0814.jpg
     

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  15. ThatCrowGirl

    ThatCrowGirl Member

    A picture of the whole snake (sorry for the "spam" ie: multiple posts).
    DSC_0810.jpg
     

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  16. ThatCrowGirl

    ThatCrowGirl Member

    Since my other post is taking its time, here is a pic of the current environment. It really needs a substrate of some sort.

    tank.jpg

    and a close up of snake in the corner...

    intank.jpg
     

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  17. Merlin

    Merlin Administrator Staff Member Premium Member

    We do not have to approve photos for them to show in the posts.
    Your issue is that you are copying the URL tag instead of the IMG tag.
    Use the IMG tags and the photos will display instead of being a link.
     
  18. ThatCrowGirl

    ThatCrowGirl Member

    Thanks, Merlin. I'll fix(?) that.
     
  19. Infernalis

    Infernalis Elite Member

    Like this...

    A proper "IMG" code line will look just like this (However photobucket will add some other code, don't worry about it at all, it's no big deal)

    HCIMG.gif
     

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  20. ThatCrowGirl

    ThatCrowGirl Member

    DSC_0818.jpg Updated tank. I used a tupperware container to place the moss in and added a little rainwater to keep it hydrated. I tossed in a tiny snail and a slug for good measure. I can't believe I brought a slug into my house.
     

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