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Help ID Snake

Discussion in 'Boas *General*' started by williamb, Jun 26, 2012.

  1. williamb

    williamb Member

    Can anyone help identify this snake. The local calls it a Boa but I am not sure that is the case.

    The snake is between 4-5 ft and the picture is taken on the pacific coast of Nicaragua.

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  2. thatguy87

    thatguy87 Well-Known Member

    How thick is it and do you have any more pictures
     
  3. mld

    mld Subscribed User Premium Member

    Could it be a cat eyed (Leptodeira annulata)?? It's very pretty
     
  4. Wyldrose

    Wyldrose Elite Member

    Yeah it looks like the cat eyed snakes. From the pictures it looks like a colubrid of some sort.
     
  5. williamb

    williamb Member

    It is a rather thin snake. about 1 inch at 4-5ft. maybe 1 1/2 inch.

    Here are some more pictures. If there is anything you want to see I can try to take a pic of that area.
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    Leptodeira annulata seems to fit rather well however it seems to me that the apptern on them seldom if ever seem to go as far down towards the belly as they do on this snake. Another option that I have been playing with is a corallus annulatus allthough it might be to slender for that (see pic below) or some species of rat snake.

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  6. williamb

    williamb Member

    Also I can add that some specimens but not all of this species rattle their tail and produce a sound when cornered. They do not have a rattle.
     
  7. AjaMichelle

    AjaMichelle Elite Member

    I can't tell if the snake you're attempting to ID has heat pits... This character is essential for correctly IDing the mystery snake as C annulatus. I think it may be too thick to be a cat eyed species (but I could be mistaken).

    If it's lacking the heat pits I would agree that it looks like a species of rat snake.
     
  8. williamb

    williamb Member

    Will check for heat pits when they come out tonight
     
  9. williamb

    williamb Member

    I do not know if the close up allow you to see anything more. It is a bit blurry.
     

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  10. AjaMichelle

    AjaMichelle Elite Member

    No I still can't see if there are heat pits.

    With respect to your earlier comment regarding the ventral striping, remember also that patterning can vary by locality and many species are polymorphic, even to a small degree. Body patterning isn't a character you can reliably use alone to ID species.
     
  11. diehardislanders

    diehardislanders Elite Member

    Brown Tree Snake is my guess

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  12. diehardislanders

    diehardislanders Elite Member

    It looks like a well fed one. The thicker they are, the less severe their "arrow head" appears. They come in all different shades of browns etc. Google image them.
     
  13. williamb

    williamb Member

    Yes I agree that there are a lot of localities with different patterns but a google serach reveals none where the color extend far below half the body. However it def remains a possibility.
     
  14. AjaMichelle

    AjaMichelle Elite Member

    I emphasized that because I've never found google to be a reliable resource for photos of the herps I've searched for.
     
  15. williamb

    williamb Member

    EYes are too small for Brown tree snake which has bigger eyes + we are in the wrong part of the world. This snake is from Central America, Nicaragua and as far as i know there are no invasive population of the brown tree snake
     
  16. Merlin

    Merlin Administrator Staff Member Premium Member

    It looks like a Lyre Snake
    Trimorphodon biscutatus
     

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