Discussion in 'Corn Snakes' started by Murder Serpent, Feb 5, 2008.
Sorry, what's your question exactly?
I think he wants help on identification of the snakes.
Looks like a cornsnake to me.
I am going with an Emoryi.
yeah me too... possible hybrid tho. Where you get it from? locality is only defining character, they can really look the same... the dorsal blotches don't really have a strong black outline so thats why i say Emoryi
Yeah my best guess is she is a rootbeer, Corn & Emoryi hybrid. I bought her from someone who didnt know either.
She's beautiful! I have a terrible time telling corns from rats from hybrids...
Me to obviously, lol
It's good to know I'm not alone in my boat
corns are ratsnakes, but not all ratsnakes are corns!
Hard to say, If the breeder/seller didn't know than it would be hard to say theres really alot of variation in color in even "pure" corns (if any in the trade a really truly pure. Emoryi was once thought as a sub species of Guttaus so lots of breeding between the two were done). It looks as though it could be a Rootbeer though it could also be a Okeetee. Gene sample or breeding out the albino gene could be the only way to find out as the coloration will be very diffrent in the two species.
While it is possible that it is a hybrid, it looks very different than what is termed "Okeetee".
The Okeetee bears red saddles with heavy dark black border and a bright orange background color.
Ok Merlin that was not nice Confuse us somemore why dontcha.
LOL! One of the common names for a cornsnake is Red Ratsnake!
So it's a Racorn ?? As others stated,,corns have been bred to so many morphs that you really cannot tell. When our Okeetee's bred the offspring that did hatch were quite different from one another.
yeah in the end who really cares? Unless a person is working with pure locality animals all this nonsense is a waist of time lol.... haha maybe just because i am not a corn person
I'll agree with a yes/no on this subject. For somone just looking for a snake it doesn't make a diffrence. But for those who wish to breed it's important to perseve the species as it exists in nature. Thus stopping the need for wild caught animals.
During the 60's and 70's boas were bred in such numbers and with soo poorly that the localities were almost unknown in private collections. It wasn't untill the late 80's that with new wild caught stock and better breeding that boas as they are know from the wild were avalible as captive bred animals to collectors.
yeah that is why i said we should be working with pure locality in that way. i am all for natural pure locality breeding.When a snakes origin is unknown and breeding has been messed up in that line already...there is no diffrence. unless starting and keeping a pure lineage it is important.
Hard to tell with the quality of the pics, the last set look like the snake is in shed making it darker.
It is possible that it is a milksnake phase cornsnake
but it may be hybrid
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