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Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Infernalis, Jan 29, 2012.

  1. BarelyBreathing

    BarelyBreathing Elite Member

    Re: Monitor Picture Thread!!!

    Habu sake is EVERYWHERE in Japan. Somebody remind me to post a picture when I get home in a few hours.

    I'd like to know if there's any real truth behind it.
     
  2. crocdoc

    crocdoc Elite Member

    Re: Monitor Picture Thread!!!

    That's basic biology, members of the same species have similar habitat/climate preferences.

    If that were the case, it would happen when females of almost any invertebrate or animal were killed at the right time of year. However, they don't store that much pheromone that smooshing one releases enough to attract an army of males. If the first one appeared in the kitchen without being attracted to the smooshed remains of a predecessor, what's to say the others didn't show up in the kitchen for the same non-reason? They were just there for whatever reason the first one was there - time of year, climate, breeding season, whatever.

    The other important factor here is that large scolopendrid centipedes are widespread throughout warm places around the world. I've seen them in Texas, in Brazil, in Australia and in Asia. If there was any truth to the idea that killing one brings others it would be widely known, rather than only 'known' on the relatively small island nation of Japan.

    I still say urban myth.

    That one doesn't even need debunking. All I have to do is add a list of other things meant to have the same effect and you'll see the pattern emerge:

    Powdered rhino horn
    Snake's blood
    Tiger penis

    What do these things have in common? Rhino horns are longer than they are wide and are hard (ie phallic). Snakes are a long, thick animal (ie phallic). Tiger penis... well, it actually IS a phallus. Notice that traditional medicinal equivalents of the 'little blue pill' never involve non-phallic animals, like turtles or rodents.

    Of course there's no truth to any of it. Placebo effect. Clearly one would be thinking about sex while one was drinking the habu viper venom sake, or else one wouldn't be drinking it, and we all know that the largest sex organ in the human body is the brain.

    edit: Just found this link that adds a few other phallic-shaped items to the list: assorted items used as aphrodisiacs
     
  3. crocdoc

    crocdoc Elite Member

    Re: Monitor Picture Thread!!!

    Getting back on track - here's a spider commonly seen by herpers in eastern Australia. If you're inclined to peek under rocks, you'll eventually run into these. They're called flat rock spiders. They look pretty normal from this angle:
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    But when you view them from the side (or even just see how they run around) you realise that they are very flat and their legs have been rotated so that all of the joints move on a single plane, such that they scurry sideways like a crab.
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    They are usually found when one rock is sitting on another rock, with a very tiny gap in between. In fact, one of their preferred habitats is exfoliated sandstone, where the exfoliated slab is still resting on its mother rock.
     

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  4. Vers

    Vers Elite Member

    Re: Monitor Picture Thread!!!

    Fair enough :)

    Back on topic, here is another insect that will creep a lot of people out--perhaps not at first, but after seeing where their larva end up...well, I'm sure that will do the trick.
    This is a Bot Fly Cuterebra fontinella and for those who don't know these flies parasitize mammals. This specific species targets small rodents like mice, chipmunks and squirrels but larger mammals like rabbits, cats and dogs are also susceptible.
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    Other species of this fly will target humans as hosts, the larva residing just below the skin. A quick google search of 'Bot Fly' should bring up some interesting video material for those so inclined :D
     

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  5. BarelyBreathing

    BarelyBreathing Elite Member

    Habu sake
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  6. mld

    mld Subscribed User Premium Member

    Re: Monitor Picture Thread!!!

    I hate flies in general, I've seen the Bot Fly Larva in human skin on TV, very gross wiggling around! One little creature I do not want to have to deal with :-&
     

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  7. crocdoc

    crocdoc Elite Member

    Given that the habu sake bottle has a whole snake in it (rather than just a few drops of venom) supports my idea that it's the phallic shape of the snake, rather than some chemical quality of the venom, that is seen as an aphrodisiac.

    Vers - love your macro work. I've seen some videos of people getting their botfly 'souvenirs' removed after returning home from overseas vacations. Ewwwww.
     
  8. justor

    justor Elite Member

    I've seen the videos of botfly larvae being removed from human hosts... Reminds me of popping a really stubborn zit lol.

    Does the bot fly actually lay the egg inside you? I seem to remember hearing that they actually lay the egg on a mosquito or something which then transfers it to you when you get bit.
     
  9. mld

    mld Subscribed User Premium Member

    I believe so, I would say more than just mosquitos!
     
  10. Vers

    Vers Elite Member

    Thanks, Doc! I also agree with you in regards to the whole 'medicinal' thing...the effect that market has on populations of engendered species is sickening. To think, the total loss of the Tiger in the wild may be because someone wants it's penis in order for them to get it up when, in fact, it doesn't even contain any actual medicinal qualities to do so.

    It depends on the species. Some will lay eggs at the mouth of a rodent den which will attach themselves to the animals fur, hatch and then imbed themselves under the animal's skin. Others will parasitize another parasitic insect, such as a mosquito or tick, which will then transfer the egg to the intended host where it will hatch and burrow.
     
  11. BarelyBreathing

    BarelyBreathing Elite Member


    Only the most expensive habu sake comes with a snake inside of it. The cheaper option has venom, but no snake. Awamori, as well, has habu venom in it, but no snake.
     
  12. crocdoc

    crocdoc Elite Member

    Ultimately, it is still all about it being a component of a snake, which is phallic in shape. If any part of a snake really were an efficient aphrodisiac, big pharmaceutical companies like Pfizer (or whomever developed Viagra) would have been all over it ages ago and saved themselves a lot of research time and money by releasing a synthetic snake-venom mimic to the world, rather than developing viagra. That's been a huge money spinner for them.
     
  13. Dragoness

    Dragoness Elite Member

    A few gems I found while hiking/herping in FL:
     

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  14. Dragoness

    Dragoness Elite Member

    And a few from my former job:
     

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  15. kriminaal

    kriminaal HH Block Leader Staff Member Premium Member

    Nice shots Jen.
    Good quality photos.
    I need to get a new battery for my DSLR so I can show some recent photos.
    But at $140, I'm kinda hesitant.
     
  16. mld

    mld Subscribed User Premium Member

    Awesome bugs!
     
  17. Vers

    Vers Elite Member

    Good stuff, Jen!
     
  18. Vers

    Vers Elite Member

    What dslr are you shooting with, Mike? You may find a replacement at diamondback battery. I have been using batteries from them for years and there is no difference at all between them and oem in terms of performance.
     
  19. Vers

    Vers Elite Member

    Here are a few more...
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  20. Vers

    Vers Elite Member

    Annnnd a few more :D
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