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Could be getting a burm

Discussion in 'Burmese Pythons' started by RKO, Aug 26, 2005.

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  1. RKO

    RKO Active Member

    I could be getting a 10' albino male burm. I need some tips. Would a 6' long 2' high 3' wide cage work? What should the temps be(day and night)? How often should I feed it? How often should I handle it? Anything else I left out please in form me.
     
  2. furryscaly

    furryscaly Elite Member

    Welcome to HC :) I'd get a bigger cage than that. Before long, that snake could be twice the size he is now. If you get the cage you're looking at, its just going to cost you more in the long run because you'll have to keep buying new cages as he grows.

    Not 100% sure on the rest of it though, I'd have to do some research. I do know that burms are one of the worst snakes to get if you're new to keeping snakes though. They simply get too massive. They're expensive to feed because of that, require huge enclosures, and can easily kill you if it tried.
     
  3. RKO

    RKO Active Member

    I am building a temporary cage for it then will buy a bigger one.
     
  4. Lyn

    Lyn Elite Member

    If you dont know about requirements of Burmese Pythons, then I would think seriously about taking one 10 ft long...do you own "huge" snakes? A ball python is more a beginner's snake. I own a 7 ft boa and would be nervous about taking in a 10 ft Burmese...especially knowing how big they eventually get. Good luck and let us know if you have more questions....Lyn
     
  5. Amelia

    Amelia Elite Member

    A 6 ft long cage is perfect for the animal..of course if you want to go to an 8 ft enclosure down the line you just as well can do that.

    At 10 ft, I would imagine that animal is onto appropriately sized rabbits..if not then hunt down someone you can get feeder rabbits from for a decent price, because feeding that animal multiple large/jumbo rats is going to become quite a pain, and is going to be costly. With rabbits you can feed most larger animals a nice sized rabbit every 2 weeks.

    Temperature and humidity are things you really need to stay on top of because burms seem to be one snake specie that can get RI's quite easily. Temps on the warm side should be 88-92, on the cool side of the enclosure you can go 78-80, and its a good idea never to let temps drop below 75.

    About handling, well naturally you shouldn't handle after feeding the animal, for a few days at least with rabbits..might want to avoid the animal in shed, some can get quite the attitude, and it is usually just better to leave the animal alone during that time, rather than chance getting bit when otherwise you wouldn't be.

    On a side note, I recommend with larger constrictors that you invest in a snake hook, this can come in handy for hook training animals, especially those that have strong feeding responses, with hook training them, you can let the animal know if you are opening the enclosure to get them out, and that its not feeding time, or when it is feeding time. Even if not hook training a hook can always come in handy with larger constrictors.

    Burms definately get girthy when you compare them to some other large constrictors. Being that yours is a male, he shouldn't really get too large, a lot of males will average out at 12-14 ft, but males don't always fit into these guidelines, as there are plenty of larger males out there. A lot of burms that are interacted with can become really mellow animals, and if you can care properly for a burm, and have a decent tempered animal, they can really be great animals to keep.

    Keep in mind what advice is given to you here, burms aren't for just anyone to keep, that is an obvious thing seeing as how many are bought as cute babies and dumped because of their size eventually, their food bill, or some other reason, this goes along with other larger constrictors too, they aren't just something to get and get rid of when they become too much for you, although in certain circumstances people part with their large constrictors for necessary reasons. They don't just live a few years and die, so they are a pretty long term animal to have too.

    Anyways I suppose I have gone on long enough..but there is definately some things you need to think about further..and check around the web, there are caresheets all over, even books available, and so on.
     
  6. RKO

    RKO Active Member

    I have experience with a 8'+ boa and thats the biggest. Other than that, just balls and boas. I can pick up a snake hook at a reptile show anytime. I am aware of the feeding bill, I am getting a job at a petstore where they sell feeders quite cheap. Plus my mom makes almost $100,000 a year, so I got that covered. I will build a (lenght, width, height) 6' 2' 2' then by and 8' 3' 2'. I think the snake is a little smaller than 10 foot. E-mail me for pics antbud@sbcglobal.net just tell me you want to see the burm pics.
     
  7. goldrockin_froggie

    goldrockin_froggie Well Established Member

    I agree read up on them and if you are alone then i wouldn consider it, know it's history otherwise you would be its next meal. I hate reading these topics for such big snakes and you don't know how to feed it schedule wise or handle it or cage etc. Don't give the rest of us a bad name.
     
  8. RKO

    RKO Active Member

    hold up dont get all angry. I have done alot of reading. You know not all caresheets arent up to date. I just wanted owners opinions.
     
  9. furryscaly

    furryscaly Elite Member

    I think most of us are more concerened than angry :) Burms, in my opinion, should require a license for ownership. All too often people with not enough experience buy them, not realizing what exactly they're getting into. Then once it starts growing they change their minds and ditch it. We don't really have many people here that actually own any.
     
  10. BlackJack

    BlackJack Subscribed User Premium Member

    I think it's a great thing that you're taking the time to seek advice from Burm owners and doing some research BEFORE you make your decision to get the burm or not, RKO.
    It shows a great deal of maturity and responsibility that you are willing to get informed beforehand.

    I personally don't own a burm and wouldn't own any snake over 10'. (I agree with Matt, that Burms as well as some other animals should require a license to keep... they do here in Switzerland where I live.)
    With any snake, you really have to look long into the future... perhaps the next 15-20 years. Your Mom is offering you great financial back up now, but when you're out on your own some apartments won't allow animals like snakes (And a burm is not an easy animal to hide when your landlord stops by unexpectedly)... will you be able to provide for it when it's older and bigger?

    Good luck with whatever you decide. I'd like to see pics if you have them. Burms are cool... but I'm not sure they're an ideal pet.
     
  11. Amelia

    Amelia Elite Member

    I suppose not many people on this forum that Im aware of really own larger snakes like burms or anything too much larger..I used to keep a few, and we would get larger animals brought into our shop all the time, among other constrictors and such. I moved out of burms once I got into the retics, addicting little buggers too..they are more than enough for me (4'11) don't worry Im not alone with the bigguns, even though they are still growing lol..I probably will end up getting a few burms again as time goes on though.
     
  12. RKO

    RKO Active Member

    well I got an albino baby burm.
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  13. RKO

    RKO Active Member

  14. Bitis Gabonica

    Bitis Gabonica Elite Member

    RKO, congratulations on your addition.. how come you went for a baby rather than the 10ft one?

    Good luck with him/her and well done for seeking advice before buying, but I would still caution you on remembering just how big this snake will get. I'm with Matt in that I think not just anyone should be allowed to own an animal of this size,. even when you have experience with larger boas that is nothing compared to a burm. Be prepared to spend a lot of time with this little one to ensure a nice calm snake when older, and while you might not be its next meal (snakes don't generally go for humans... :p ) you will need to consider help when handling this snake as an adult.
     
  15. RKO

    RKO Active Member

     
  16. furryscaly

    furryscaly Elite Member

    Although its tempting, Id wait on that. You have no guarantee you'll have room for two 30 foot snakes in the future, plus you're brand new to keeping them. Once she's grown up, there are always plenty of abaondoned burms out there that need good homes that you could take in.
     
  17. RKO

    RKO Active Member

    thats true too. thanks you just saved me money for the future
     
  18. Lyn'sSteve

    Lyn'sSteve Elite Member

    Nice looking Burm RKO! Nice color! Good luck with her.

    Steven
     
  19. RKO

    RKO Active Member

    I need to hook train her. She is wonderful, except her attitude. Shes a little hissy and strikes sometimes.
     
  20. Bighill_Reptiles

    Bighill_Reptiles Elite Member

    welcome to the big world of the burn here is hoping that you stick with it as there is to many dumped every year one word of cashun tho is be carfull at feeding time and for the day after feed and leave the room you dont want a 20'and 200lb snake stricking at you It is no fun at all I have been keeping snakes senc I was 15 and I am 40 now And have a great deal Of RESPECT for the Burms bin bit a few times and hade stiches twice so think befor putting in your hands at feeding time they are faster than we think I hade a 9' female eating a rabbit and noticed that the watter needed changing she was 3' away and i riched in to get the watter and she hade me it was not fun 7 stiches later best of luck and read all you can and realy thinf first .By the whey Beautifull little one you have nice pink to bad they go yellow as they get older and bigger
     
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