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Discussion in 'Hognose Snakes' started by Reg, Jul 11, 2017.

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  1. Reg

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    Hello all! I just brought my male Axanthic Hognose Perrin home yesterday. I know they have an adjustment period before they calm down and will feed. How long should I wait before trying to feed him for the first time? The breeder told me he hasn't eaten in 5 day and has been eating once a week so should I wait a few days before trying or should I wait the full week or 2 for him to get completely settled before I try feeding him? Any advice would be greatly appreciated!
     

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  2. Rich

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    I would wait at least 3 days before feeding or handling the snake. Allow it to adjust uninterrupted.
     
  3. Reg

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    OK cool. I was going to try feeding him this weekend. Thanks for the advice.
     
  4. AmityReptiles

    AmityReptiles Well Established Member

    From my experience with male hoggies they can be a little difficult to start feeding in a new environment. Let us know if you have any difficulties, there's a couple tricks you can try. Also if you have questions on care we're happy to help!
     
  5. Reg

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    Will do, thanks! I was happy to see him out and actively exploring his tank today when I got home from work. Spent some time hanging out in the open as well so I am hopeful he'll be comfortable enough for handling and feeding within a week or so.
     
  6. Reg

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    So I got a little impatient and handed Perrin today. He was a little flighty but no striking or flattening his neck. Only a small hiss or 2 so I feel that he's adjusting well.

    I'm going to try and feed him for the first time tonight by putting him in a small container with a FT pinky overnight. Should I throw a little aspin in there with him or leave the container bare?
     
  7. AmityReptiles

    AmityReptiles Well Established Member

    Sorry for the late reply. Those are normal hognose responses, I would be concerned if he wasn't flighty, they're very naturally curious and want to explore. Should be fine in a bare container.
     
  8. Reg

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    Another thing is I was checking Temps this morning. I kept my thermostat probe sandwiched between and UTH and thermometer probe secured to the bottom of the inside of terrarium touching the glass above the UTH. The thermometer under the substrate fluctuates between 88-93°F but the top of the substrate on the hot side never exceeds ambient. Is this OK? I'm assuming the shake is smart though to burrow under the substrate if he wants to warm up.
     
  9. AmityReptiles

    AmityReptiles Well Established Member

    They are borrowers so this may be acceptable. If you want to be sure I can tell you how I set up my heat tape. I secure the thermostat probe to the bottom of the tape, leaving the probe hanging slightly for a gap, (see pic) then I set it to about 5f-10f higher than recommended basking temps. Then I put a very thin layer of substrate above the pad/tape in the terrarium and measure the surface temp, should be about right. You can put more substrate down after this, like was said they will burrow. 150012736713179329643.jpg
     
  10. Reg

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    I attempted my feed just now and he took it! I goofed and purchased mice that I think are probably too small (they're a little less than the width of his head) so I was going to see if he'd take a second helping but be didn't. Everything I've read said you should be able to see a small bulge in the snakes middle after they've eaten but there isn't one at all. Should I offer him another mouse tonight/tomorrow or just wait the normal couple days till it's feeding time again? Either way I'm extremely relieved he ate at all.
     
  11. AmityReptiles

    AmityReptiles Well Established Member

    Congratulations good job!
    Just wait until the next feeding, if he doesn't take a second one then he is satisfied. You don't wanna offer too often. I would wait about 4 days. Prey size for them is typically slightly bigger around than their head, if you wanna bump him up or keep offering two, either way will be fine. If he seems too stressed to feed ever, just wait until night time when he is calm and gently place it infront of his mouth. (That often works for me, just a side note)
     
  12. Reg

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    So it's been it's been 4 weeks since he last ate. I twice tried leaving him in a small container with the pinky overnight but he didn't take them. Last offering was 2 days ago and it as a fuzzy. When I dropped it in his tank he smelled it and went over. I thought he was interested but he just sat here with head resting on the prey and never ate it. He hasn't lost significant weight and isn't showing any signs of stress so I'm not too worried yet. I also tried during the heat on his hot spot up to about 95F at the recommendation of some fellow hognose owners. Also I make sure not to handle him the day before I offer food. Should I try scenting next? I was hoping that wouldnt be necessary since the breeder had been feeding him unscented and he ate unscented once with me. I know male hognoses are notorious for randomly going off food and im trying not to let it get to me but it's a difficult adjustment :|
     
  13. AmityReptiles

    AmityReptiles Well Established Member

    Post up some pics of him and his enclosure please. My hogs are still breeding so it might be a breeding season thing. Are you just dropping it in or are you moving it around or what?
     
  14. Reg

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    I'll take some soon as I'm home. I had been offering on tongs, moving the prey around in front of him. This worked the one time he has eaten since I got him. After that didn't work a few times I tried putting him in a small container with the prey over night. Then this last time I tried moving it in front of him again. He didn't hiss or strike at it, but did not eat.

    He otherwise has been great. I handle him almost daily (except for the day before and day of eating) and he seems to be extremely comfortable with me. He'll hang out in my hand or even next to me on the bed for good periods of time without moving much and the only time he hisses is if I open the lid too roughly. He is also very active in his cage during the day.
     
  15. AmityReptiles

    AmityReptiles Well Established Member

    Could you describe how you prepare the mouse prior to feeding?
     
  16. Reg

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    I put it in a sandwich bag and then into warm (never hot) water under its thawed. I try and offer it while the mouse itself it still warm.
     
  17. Reg

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    Here's his viv. A cold and warm hide (he uses both. Surface of the hot spot is currently 93-96F. Fresh water daily.
     

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