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This is what our member has to say: Hello, Sorry to hear of your bad experience Fordie. I still believe that aspen is the best bedding!...


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 I helped move the meter!   01-30-2007, 10:06 AM
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Hello,

Sorry to hear of your bad experience Fordie. I still believe that aspen is the best bedding!
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I'm sorryto hear that Fordie. Its terrible to lose a pet.

Aspen is my first choice as well. I do on occassion use cypress mulch.
However I do not feed the animal in the enclosure.
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Yes it kinda sucked for a while. Learnt from it though so no hard feelings. I did feed in the enclosure, not any more though, again, i learnt. Just hoped that letting HoanIsMyBallPython know the score it might even things out with his/her opinion.
And yes aspen and newpaper are the substrates of choice nowadays.

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Okay, there you go Hoan, you have another opinion from someone who has used the pellets and regrets it.

We, as keepers who have a great deal of concern for our pets, would not knowingly put our pets into danger by using a product that we can tell is not safe just by looking at the packaging.

Also I would look into a feeding bin to prevent your snake from eating its substrate, whatever you end up using.
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 I helped move the meter!   01-30-2007, 02:31 PM
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Hi there:
I'm sure you must feed like you're being ganged up on, but our concerns are for the well-being of your snake and we want to help you to give him the best possible care.
My husband and I tried using the clay pellets as a substrate for our Green Tree Pythons, since they are seldom on the ground and it holds humidity well.
We put the pellets in an empty terrarium for a while to monitor the humidity and temperature, and it seemed like a good thing.
So we put one of our baby chondros in a terrarium with clay pellet substrate. But it did not take long to discover the drawbacks: It is a horror to clean up! Urates and feces just soak up and sink in between the stuff and for that reason alone it is a breeding ground for bacteria and trouble. (Also dead leaves would fall into it and get all stuck and rot.) Here's a pic from when we had it: of course the Green Tree Python baby did go down on the ground and I didn't like him crawling on that.

Within a few days we cleared all of that out and have used paper towels for the GTPs ever since. Here is our Green Tree Python set up (the paper towel works great as a substrate for them.) It holds moisture well enough with the live plants providing some humidity as well. MUCH easier to clean!!!

I use Terrarium soil humus for my Ball Python. But I always feed him in a separate plastic tub. This is his set up:


From my own experience (fortunately not as bad as some) I would not recommend using the pellets for pets. Just not sanitary... especially for a ground dwelling snake like a BP. Terrarium soil is much easier to spot-clean and my BP likes digging tunnels in it.
Don't use pine shavings though! It's toxic for reptiles. Aspen is the type most often recommended and has proven itself in the herp community.
Try it!

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Ok everyone

Like I said I would ive takin your advice and bought some cage liner its kinda like carpet.Thanks for showing me the light.My snake probally really appreciates it.

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Thats great to hear!
New keepers today have a distinct advantage over us old timers.
When we started out information was scarce and we had to learn by trial and error. Unfortunately a lot of our animals suffered thru our learning processes.
Your advantage, now, is that since we had aready made a lot of the mistakes we can point you in the right direction.
Its one of the reasons this site exists.
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Im glad you guys are experienced

I dont know what id do with out yall I reely thought those pellets were something good but there not.

The new liner goes in today after school.

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Congrats on your decision. If you decide to try something else in the future feel free to ask first, we might be able to save you a few $$$.
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Dont feel bad, a long time ago I tried using cat litter as a substrate for similar reasons. The results were a very dirty snake. Now Im pretty much a newspaper guy.

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