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This is what our member has to say: Rats have a lot more meat on them than mice (mice are pretty much hair and bones) So a pinky rat will give your snake ...


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 I helped move the meter!   03-07-2005, 03:17 AM
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Feeding

Rats have a lot more meat on them than mice (mice are pretty much hair and bones) So a pinky rat will give your snake much much more per meal than a mouse. I know it looks small, but it's packed with everything the snake needs.
I would say stick to one pinky rat per week for a while. My BP and BRBs tend to cruise their cages more when they are hungry. (This is good exercise for them, so I always wait an extra day after I notice this before feeding.)
If you feel that you're snake has not had enough, you can defrost 2 pinkie rats next time and see if he'll take a second one after he's eaten the first. But don't feed more often than once a week. They have very slow digestion and need at least that much time.
Each time I've tried 2 pinkie rats with my BP, he's refused the second one, so be prepared to throw out a good rat if it's refused. (You can refreeze it once, but it's usually not worth it. They tend to get thin skin in the defrost process and can burst next time! )
I've heard only good things about Rodentpro.com for frozen rats. (Unfortunately they don't ship to Switzerland.)

Handling after eating should be avoided for at least 2-3 days IMO. I read somewhere that the bones of the mouse or rat can perforate the stomach lining if the snake his handled too soon after eating. I'm not sure if that's true, but I won't take that chance with my snakes.
Mainly I think that any extra stress can cause them to regurgitate. This is icky for you and really not healthy for the snake.
I hope that helps!
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Thanks, very helpful. Experience the best teacher. Thanks again.

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Beautiful snake! I love rat snakes Don't have one, but I'd like to someday...I think you're going to love having a snake! They make the best pets
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Here's the cage almost finished. I took your advice and created a variety of hides. There are two on the bottom made of rock. One on the shelf from one of those wired stick things you get for small mammals.

I was wondering if you though sand would be okay as a substrate on the shelf level. He'll probably feed on the top of the stone hides below, so ingestion of sand won't occur. Is sand okay? It will be quite warm as there's a lot of lighting underneath the shelf.






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I would STRONGLY recommend feeding the snake outside of the terrarium. A plastic sweater box works fine for this.
It is MUCH MUCH safer for the snake. You do not have to worry about him ingesting any foreign matter this way. (As long as you keep the waterbowls clean)
Also if he is used to being fed inside the terrarium, he could mistake your hand for food when it comes in to pick him up! My snakes are always fed in a separate bucket and have never struck at me reaching into the terrarium.
I can't advise you on the aspen shavings or sand, as I really don't know if they're appropriate for ratsnakes.
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Yes, got it. Forgot about that. Today will be only the second time I've fed him. He shed this week between feeds. I've got just the place to feed him outside the enclosure. Thanks for the reminder.

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I'm confused,,,,,is this setup for your Russian Rat or the BD's ???
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