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11-12-2005, 09:10 AM
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I agree with Rachel's every word. I have bred both Colombians and Brazilians for years and from your size description of 13 to 14" that is truly a neonate. I never left a young rainbowleave here before it had fed at least 5 times. At that point they were 14 to 15" and settling down from their normal neonate nippiness. 
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11-12-2005, 12:21 PM
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i havnt force fed her.the people I got her from feed her 3 pinkies when I was there I personally havnt done it yet and only will when I have to. her temps are 84.2F warm side cool side is 75.3F and humid. is at 89-92%. as far as her inviroment its a 20 long tank plexiglass top with vents jungle mix bedding 2 hides a little branch to climb and a water bowl. im takin in your advice and im going to wait till thursday next week leave a pinkie or a hopper with her in like a container from rubbermaid of course F/T and just leave her in there till she eats?? and leave her alone turn the light off??
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11-12-2005, 08:04 PM
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Firstly your temps need increasing slightly to the high 80s F warm end. Also you need to bring that humidity down - 70% maximum. Rainbows need it humid but not that humid! 50-70% is ideal. Slightly higher when in shed.
What substrate do you have him/her on? If you are using paper towels or newspaper I would recommend just feeding it in its enclosure for the first time to get a better feeding response, as this is where s/he will feel secure. If not then yes feed in a separate tub, and if s/he doesn't feed overnight I would leave her in there overnight, we still have to do this with some of our snakes.
It shouldn't be a major worry if your snake doesn't eat straight away, he has just had a big move into a new home. But being the size he is, and knowing how stressed he must be from being force-fed previously, he should be eating in a couple of weeks, if not then I would be concerned and think about a vet visit, as he is still very small and young. I would try feeding what he is used to for now before you think about moving him onto larger food items.
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11-12-2005, 09:26 PM
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I agree with Bitis...Smaug, my first snake and Brazilian Rainbow Boa, didn't eat for about 3 weeks after I got him. I left him totally alone for about a week or so then offered a 14 day old mouse. He didn't take it for two weeks until one day, he was perched up on my hand while I was reading and I happened to look over and he had his mouth over the knuckle of my thumb. Not hard and it wasn't a bit, he was just telling me "Okay, I'm hungry now!!" and there wasn't any stopping him after that. Though to differ from Bitis, I've heard rainbows prefer fuzzies and hoppers (10 to 20 day olds) over pinkies, same with jungle carpets. What time of day are you trying to feed him at? BRBs are pretty nocturnal, so when it is night and you take him out of his cage to his feeding tub, try turning off a few lights and letting him settle in the tub for a few minutes before offering the mouse. Good luck and avoid force feeding if it all possible!!
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11-12-2005, 10:12 PM
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ok thanks alot for the help i know its 60-70% humidity but it says for an adult and babys need more but ill drop it to around mid 70's and ill wait a week in a half and ill do the night feed in the container to see if it sparks a feeling to eat and ill leave it to pinkies till he starts eating regualery ok thanks alot
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11-13-2005, 06:33 AM
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Yes babies need higher humidity but what you have it at is still far too high - 60-70%, 75-80% max for babies, 50-70% for adults.
Electrophile, I wasn't saying BRBs prefer pinkies, but if that is what this snake is used to then it is best to feed pinkies for the first few feeds before trying something different - to have been moved home is a big enough change for one go without changing food as well. In a couple of feeds try a rat pup or fluffs.
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11-13-2005, 07:45 AM
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Congrats, and good luck with the baby. Ya have some great advice here follow it and I'm sure your baby will thrive! 
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11-14-2005, 04:12 AM
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I could have sworn I posted a reply to this, but it seems to have disappeared...anyway, I had posted:
The larger size enclosure could be causing her some stress. We keep our babies in a shoebox rack with moist papertowels for substrate and they seem to do very well.
As far as telling the difference between Brazilian and Peruvian, it has to do with the markings. They are much thicker on the Peruvian. It used to be believed that Peruvians were red and Brazilians were orange, but this is not a good indicator since either locale is rather variable as far as color is concerned. Here are our Rainbows so you can see the difference (click on pic for full size):
Sub-adult male Brazilian:
Neonate female Brazilian:
Neonate male Peruvian:
See how it looks like the Peruvian's markings were done with a broad tip pen whereas the Brazilian's look more like a sharp tip pen did it? lol
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Beautiful pics LdyDrgn -- Are they your babies? (Do you have any Marajo Island Rainbows?)
Spencer at www.rainbowboa.co.uk said that my Talyn is most likely a Marajo. He said it's really difficult to say for sure, but his gut feeling is that she is, and he offered me a male Marajo if I wanted to do a breeding exchange.
Your pics show the differences between Brazilians and Peruvians better than the pics on his site. I've read on other sites that the only way to say for sure is to count the scales, but I've never bothered to do that, and I can't find the source which said how many scales the different types should have!
One thing about my girl is that she's huge: She's 6 years old, 2.10m (6.88ft) and weighs 2.4kg (5.2 lbs). She gets a medium-sized rat (100-120g) every 3 weeks, so I know she isn't over-fed.
Another thing about her that I haven't seen on other rainbows is the dark stripe down her spine. It seems to be getting more and more pronounced. Also she has almost no yellow or gold scales that are usually in a crescent-shape on the sides of Brazilians and Peruvians.
Here's a pic of our girl taken a while ago: I'm not sure what type she is exactly, but I'll settle for "BEAUTIFUL" Rainbow Boa

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11-14-2005, 04:23 PM
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babybrazilian Rainbow
wow thanks for the help guys yes from those pics I can make a 96% good guess shes a brazilian. today after work im going to work on lowering the humidity in her cage till its about mid 80s her temp is currently 83.4F. last time I check should be at 85 or 86 now though. i cant wait till thursday so I can see if she will eat god I hope she does. ill keep yall posted on everything that goes on for these couple of days intil she starts feeding. 
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