All my herps are very healthy by the way. Mine all poop correctly. I was just stating a fact of what can happen if you use sand! It's not a good idea. I also now of this from seeing it happen to herps. No not mine personally but my friend had one that this had happened to because he wouldn't take it off the sand. So I appologize for no pics of this but it was about 2 yrs ago. I own enough herps to know not to use sand.

Ya...Brizzy...ya... I feel bad for your animals too. If you would happen to do some research and not hear way of the mouth stuff then maybe youd understand. I know what im doing, and its how many others have kept what I keep. If my geckos you are sick cause on sand..ya your wrong again. My one female is gravid again. I missed her first egg and found it dried up. I guess Im doing something right if they are laying eggs arent i?

So till you find some info about infected butts from sand. I doubt that. Unless the animal is suffering from Metabolic Bone Disease or has broken limbs. and cant get the poop to come off, but either way. One should know an animal in that condition, needs to be kept under close eye.

Oh Id like to point out a gecko I dont have, but have read on and very intresting tunneling geckos. T. microlepis. One thing, how can a gecko tunnel on paper towel? Last I knew it couldnt...Thats why if you keep these criters you must use oh no SAND. get it wet and pack it so they can tunnel. I dont think that gecko will sufer the ill effects of sand you say.

Keeping it on its natural habitat is a good thing to do Either way I think I may get some T. microlepis sometime.

Oh ya I did the same for my vipers I packed the sand and let it dry they love it.

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Well sorry to hear that I would never buy a leo from you. I woud never buy a leo on sand sorry!! I just know that it's not good and I won't use it you may do what ever the **** you want!! And if your leo's die, i don't feel bad!!

I'm also not talking about packing the sand and making it solid either!! I'm talking about people who have it on STRAIGHT sand!! That's not good for them!! They are not supposed to digest the materials in the sand!! That's how they get impacted!! DUH!

LEO? where the heck do you see LEO?? I keep my Leopard Geckos on paper. I keep T. fasciata, carrot tailed, or viper gecko on sand. I said " I do know of several people that keep their Leopard Geckos and other things on sand. The leo was healthy and everything. The guy took the leo of sand and put it on paper towels. The leo stopped eating and everything. Back on the sand it was all great." Never said I kept my Leopard Geckos on it. Use your eyes man.

Oh ya dont curse. its not allowed

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There are alot that are kept on sand and never have an impaction problem. Alot in the wild do too,do some research.

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okay well then I will keep it on the sand just I will change it from calcisand to normal sand and I will pack it down. thanks.

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Just remember that if you keep geckos on sand or any loose substrate you have the following risks:

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If you think that's ok, then go ahead. Otherwise I'd suggest something safer and with the uro I'm not really familar with their background so I really don't know but I'd always go with a safer bet...and don't they like arid environments? I don't think anything full of moisture like clay or potting soil would be a good idea.

Thanks!! I do agree guys!!

You must have not listened either joeking...Ive done my research, I know the chances. They arent Leopard Geckos, they are viper geckos. There are alot of geckos and lizards you can keep on and safely. Some use sand. bark and potting soil for thier substrate for some of their geckos. I know sand is bad for somethings yes, but if you know what your doing. Feed the geckos in a glass ash tray, crickets dont get out of that. nor do meals.

Clay isnt full of moisture, once it dries. If you mix in some sand, and some potting soil, youll have some hard stuff. I know, Ive landscaped for 8 years of my life.

I guess all who use sand are in the wrong for doing it, but hey if they have success, they must be on to something.

If I really wanted Id go get some nice clay, and use it in my Leopard Geckos tank, but thats to much weight.

IGGY, if you use the sand remeber oonce it dries and you sift for poop you break it up. Like a sand castle. Happens with my viper geckos tank, and I just respray.

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