if you could send me a picture of your enclosure to my e-mail, that would be great. I need some ideas. I pulled out a bromeliad who's roots were just not growing, today. I had cut off the roots thinking they would grow back into the gravel, but I was wrong :/
I added a different bromeliad with a strong root system in today, and after finding the exoskeleton of a small spider, and webbing around a crack in the cork bark, i took it out and soaked it in a scorching water a lemon juice solution and let it air dry, so now that has been repositioned and a coco-hut has been added in the corner. I will PM you my e-mail address.

Thanks,

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PM recieved. As far as the Broms root go, the roots take a while to get established or come back. I've removed pups way too late and the roots end up coming back, the plant grows with no roots. Its cool when the plant sends off roots too. All mine are mounted a little above the substrate and they shoot off little fuzzy roots looking for the substrate to anchor itself. It takes a few days/weeks before it starts doing this, and the rate also depends on the lighting. Plants take a while to grow and adjust, your broms aren't even used to the new lighting yet.

You should have kept the spider, you could of had dart food!

Well, i had a much better looking brom on hand, and I wanted to change it out anyways. As for the spider, i was just afriad it might bite my frogs and hurt them. Even though they eat poisonous ants in the wild sometimes, i didn't know and did NOT want to risk my babies. Do you think I need a stronger light for the broms? I have a regular aquarium tube right now, but all the research I have done, say that they need compact flourescent bulbs to give them the strong light they need to grow right. Someone on HC chat (way back when I was just thinkin about gettin the frogs)
told me that walmart sells compact flourescent bulbs that fit into the reptile dome-lamps. Any suggestions?

Thanks,

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That was probably me in the chat. That is how I had my tank setup. It was a dome light with a 13 watt spiral fluro. You want the cool white ones I believe, they are rated at around 6500K, anything over 5500K will work. The 13 watt got my pups to start producing color, so I think it would work for your application, you may need two though since you have two large broms. They probably won't start loosing color from lack of light for a couple more weeks. I would get an all glass hood and a dome light and hang or clamp the lamp above the glass hood. Fluro tubes can get some good growth from alot of plants but the spiral fluros are alot more intense.

oh DUH! lol, i soooo knew it was you! lol, well thanks, for all the info. When I get the new hood and lights i'll let you know,

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im so jelous those are my fav species of dendrobates

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hi geckoguy, nice setup

great setup!!!
anyway why opt for dried mosses when u could use green mosses, it makes the tank a whole lot nicer

maybe u could consider having a false background and then using pieces of cork back to cut into it

this small layers could be then covered with moss for the more natural effect

dendrobates leucomelas can be good climbers in the wild, sometimes found more than 3m off the ground.

great setup on the whole!!!

my own setup is on hold till after my semester's exams!!!!

but here the temporary setup for my pair!!! how often u feed them??
they sure eats a lot man!!!

Sorry even this is also a half completed setup for them. sorry no pics of the full tank





will update me when the new home is done!!!

hope this will help

http://www.wildsky.net/vivarium/evivariu.htm

http://www.livingunderworld.org/amp...ticle0021.shtml

http://www.poison-frogs.nl/e03.html

thank you fuse, your tank looks very natural. I have considered live mosses but until I can get more lighting, i think I am out of luck. I went to get a glass hood today and get more lighting, but after finding out that the glass top for 20 gallong high tanks is an "unpopular" size and even after following the store clerk's advice and checking the store's website, i am left with nothing. I'll have to keep looking for one though. The sphagnum moss is actually pretty nice looking and doesn't take up any excess nutrients that my other plants could always use more of. In the near future, i'll get a cocomat for the back of the tank, and maybe line that with moss or somthing. As for now, my tank is the way it is, which is not TOO bad. My family has given me some nice comments on it's look and the look of the frogs.

P.S. I feed my three frogs every morning with about 20-30 pinhead crickets or fruit flies per frog.

Thanks

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