I have seen Pituophis Catenifer to refer to both Gophers and Bulls. Is there really a difference, or are they just called different things in diff. locations?

Would a Great Basin Gopher be the same as a Great Basin Bull?

Any help would be great. Google is just making the topic more clouded.

And now I find Pituophis melanoleucus referring to both Pine Snakes and Bull Snakes.

What the heck?

Common names...

Does this help ? The Pituophis Page - The Online Reference Guide to Snakes of the Genus Pituophis

Edited:
I just remebered that Furryscaly wrote in another thread that the species names have been reviewed.

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Joao

That helps a LOT! Thanks... I was looking for something like this. Even if they HAVE changed a bit, this is great.

Okay, now some pronunciation help.

Is it pit-u-O'-fis, with the accent on the "O"?

Or pi-TU'-ofis, with the accent on the "U"?

This is it (if I remember my latin lessons...long time ago...)

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I took the easy way out and took Spanish. I can now ask where the bathroom is - and that's about it.

Oh, and "Lo siento mucho pero no entiendo" = I am very sorry but I don't understand

Eheheh

Spanish is easy for us.
Most of the Portuguese understand Spanish (but not the other way around...)

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Here's the thread Joao was referring to, where I explain the differences between the Pituophis:
Alright, People...

"The Pituophis Page" would have been a great link for explaining it all...about 10 years ago. It's now outdated information.

Pituophis catenifer is an invalid species, it no longer exists. It's now reduced to a subspecies, P. melanoleucus catenifer. The Great Basin gopher snake is Pituophis melanoleucus deserticola.

The bullsnake has always either been its own species or its own subspecies within Pituophis. Though just about any Pituophis species is often regarded as a "bullsnake" in the public eye, this is a false statement. There has always been only one bullsnake. Currently the bullsnake is Pituophis melanoleucus sayi. They're found in the Great Plains of central North America, from Canada to Mexico. Neither the west nor east coasts have bullsnakes.

The best way to remember the current taxonomy is to just remember P. melanoleucus. Whether or not that covers all the pine/gopher snakes (like P. ruthveni, P. deppei, etc) I don't recall, but it covers the ones you'll want to remember. Anything that was formerly P. catenifer is now P. melanoleucus, you just transfer the subspecies name from one to the other (P. catenifer deserticola becomes P. melanoleucus deserticola, and so on). Basically, if you're looking at the old Pituophis Page, take all the P. catenifer and move them to P. melanoleucus. Whether the other species are also moved there is what I can't remember.

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Whew... How confusing.

Thank you for digging that info up. So, my fave, the Great Basin Gopher, is still a Great Basin Gopher, right? LOL!!!!