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This is what our member has to say: I watch my female Ackies quite intently as it's a must to know what's going on breeding wise. About 2 months ago I witnessed a ...


 
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I watch my female Ackies quite intently as it's a must to know what's going on breeding wise. About 2 months ago I witnessed a pair copulating so I marked it on the calendar. It usually takes around 20 days for them to lay the eggs. She did all the telltale signs that she was gravid. However 20 days came and went, 30 days came and went. It's now been roughly 60 days and she is very big.
The only conclusions I can come to is that either she is egg-bound or she resorbed the first clutch, retained sperm and is ready to lay again. Double clutching.
I will let it go until the weekend and then I will get her X-rayed to find out what's going on.
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Good luck with that Mike and keep us posted.
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Great job man. The best of luck

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Sounds like a double clutch, best of luck Mike.
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Possibly slugs? They take longer sometimes. I hope all goes well.

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Re: Puzzling Ackie

So I got her x-rayed last night. Geez that's expensive.
Nothing showed up, no retained eggs or anything of that sort.
Still puzzled why she is big. Looks like she could lay anyday.
I can't believe that she would be overweight since she hasn't eaten all that much in the last few days.
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Re: Puzzling Ackie

I've noticed that she has a bit of a head shake when she's walking around. That worries me even more. One suggestion I've got that possibly it's early symptoms of Metabolic Bone Disease.
I've been referred to a veterinary college hopefully they can give insight.
Of course I can't get in there until July 22.
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Re: Puzzling Ackie

So I don't have good news having been to the vet college. Unfortunately they're not sure exactly what's causing it but she is full of fluid.
You can tell from the x-ray. It's blocking any real depth of penetration.

The blood samples taken all came back at normal levels.
The fluid contains a lot of properties in relation to yolk including high lipid levels.
Also it is septic which means she won't likely recover.
She is not eating too bad but doesn't move around a whole lot.
The shaking has stopped however I will keep an eye on her as to when I will have her put down.
All in all it cost me $500. I was hoping to find out more definitive answers as to the cause. But the only way to do that would be to open her up. I'm not going to get into that.
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Re: Puzzling Ackie

Hi, Mike.
I've just joined this forum, so I just had a chance to see your lizard's x-rays and view your lab report info. You first observed:
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"It's now been roughly 60 days and she is very big.
The only conclusions I can come to is that either she is egg-bound or she resorbed the first clutch, retained sperm and is ready to lay again. Double clutching."
Double clutching refers to sequential laying, not a single laying of more eggs. Egg binding is the more likely problem, in that it could have caused the egg-layer's equivalent of an ectopic pregnancy.
This can occur when an egg is accidentally lodged in an oviduct and then begins to solidify (actually gel, but consider the location and you can see the problem). If this happens, it causes a gradually growing rupture of the oviduct and tearing of the local tissues. That is one source of released fluids in the body cavity. Then the immune system begins to decompose the lodged egg, which contains that yolk material that is high-fat and turning "rancid." These effects cumulatively lead to severe septicemia -- like having a giant appendix rupture -- and the patient begins to decline. The shaking was probably the result of neurological damage caused by the septicemia.
I am sorry that your lizard contracted so dangerous a condition; I presume her time has come by now?
There is really no way to prevent this type of thing. It is random, extremely rare, and undetectable until too late.
Condolences and regards,
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