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This is what our member has to say: haha, No Such Thing as an evil Animal, i think some just do enjoy the taste of fingers....


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 I helped move the meter!   01-30-2008, 07:47 PM
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haha, No Such Thing as an evil Animal, i think some just do enjoy the taste of fingers.
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We use the vinegar spritz treatment here for biting, works quite well.
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 I helped move the meter!   01-31-2008, 03:20 AM
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I've never actually used vinegar for reducing biting, However my Pets are not very biting prone. My opinion If you get bit, you were probably doing something you shouldn't have done. I may do it whenever I get a Sav though, but even with dogs and cats, my opinion, in many cases, a dog or cat bites you, you were probably doing something you shouldn't have. but hey, i think 99% of the world disagrees with me there.
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 I helped move the meter!   01-31-2008, 07:57 PM
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Sometimes we get bit for no reason at all. I'm not a herp whisperer, But sometimes they just freak out and bite.
I would say the number one reason of doing something you shouldn't have done is to keep a herp in the first place! They're better off in the wild. Having said this, We would know nothing of these animals otherwise.
A bite or a sting is nothing when it comes to the persuit of knowledge!
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 I helped move the meter!   01-31-2008, 08:13 PM
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Could not agree with you more. If I were put in a cage, i think i'd bite too. Even with the biting and scratching, i think its all worth it to live in proximity with these animals.
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Re: New Monitor

Let me first start off by saying that no monitor (other than possibly a Varanus komodoensis with a child) is truly aggressive. I have been studying monitors for a number of years in the field, come across them in the field over decades and have had some monster sized (>2.3m) come unknowingly come very close (<2m) to me while I have been in hides. Not once, have I ever had aggression taken against me. To the contrary, they have always put on a display (sometimes hissing or raising the posterior of the body and always throat inflating). They have always moved away from me, with the smaller ones running/diving and the monsters moving away slowly.

(I was just on the other side of the dirt burm from the monitor in the picture)
Monitors are defensive. What makes them appear aggressive is that they are not able to get away- they are trapped. I have a species of monitor that is considered among the most 'aggessive' in captivity, Varanus bengalensis nebulosus. The male has chased me out of HIS enclosure a number of times. I have been in the field many times with this species- they have always run away, or observed me from a safe distance, high in a tree. If it was a truly aggressive species, it would attack me in its area.

Now, with your next captive monitor, you need to build a relationship with it. This is never going to be done by holding it when it does not want to be held. It has to be left alone and slowly become used to your presence. During this time, you have to give it no reason to make it believe you are a threat.

One of the best analogies that I have heard about doing this, I will now plagiarize: If you want to win the trust of a squirrel in a park, are you going to catch it, grab it and hold it when it does not want to be held? No, you are just going to scare it and it will never trust you. If you offer it food and entice it to come closer and closer over a period of days/weeks and gain its trust by building a relationship with it, it will be coming to you.

Although I have been chased a number of times out of my Varanus bengalensis nebulosus enclosure by the male, the number of times are rather insignificant considering that I have had the pair for over 40 months, I am able to work in the enclosure with them and have not been bitten once by either of them. An American who came to visit me was shocked that I went to work into the enclosure with shorts and flip flops. He feared them, but I am able to work with them.

Do not ever think that all monitors can be 'tamed'. Each is an individual and there are those that will never trust you and you will never be able to trust them. On the other hand, I have yet to keep a monitor that I can not work with and that I can not 'read' or trust.

Before getting another monitor, please consider this: you are going to be taking on a responsibility that will last for 15-20 years, if you take care of them properly. You already had to give one up. Are you going to be able to take care of another one for 15-20 years (2X the longevity of a dog) even if it turns out to be 'evil'? This is an answer that you should honestly answer to yourself. If the answer is no, please consider another animal

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Re: New Monitor

Very well said Michael!
I constantly hear people refer to animls being mean or evil. In fact they are just being what they are and you have to get inside their heads to deal with them. A lot of people don't think abut the fact that, in an enclosure, the animal is basicly cornered and has no choice but to defend itself against the invader(you)!
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