As might be evident from this thread and the insults towards me that eventually resulted in the banning of Danceswithsavs, there has been a bit of history, where they post nonsense while others and I refute their nonsense with evidence. What may have generated the most hatred towards me and an unnamed source was the exposing of their training log, which they posted on the internet. This is from the original training log and is not disputed by Danceswithsavs; I underlined the parts which I have criticised in the past:
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34 DAYS, Buzzy (having grown from 11 to 12 1/2 inches in the past month)
He has started the day with the same rage. Touching his 'jail box' elicited much hissing from within. We decided to put him in the bathtub with deep water in order to exhaust him and then be the 'heroes' that 'rescue' him.
We did this all while being very mindful to not show face, hands or let him smelll us. We did not sing or speak, either. Thugs in burka were we.
He didn't paddle actively- he was unusually calm in the water. Usually he paddles like mad till he can get a grip on something. We watched with one eye around the shower curtain, which was drawn.
After 5 minutes or so, he flipped on his back, head underwater, and remained still. This was a frightening image, as we had lost a monitor to drowning and found his corpse in the same pose. The wife immediately snatched him up He had not inhaled any water and seemed OK, but all fight was gone. He was doing a hard-core 'freeze'. Wife put him inside her bathrobe where it was warm, dark and smelled familiar.
We are, ourselves, upset over this inexplicable defensive behaviour, not only because it violated our expectations, but also because this is not behaviour that is compatible with living as a pet and he would have to be kept as a breeding specimen if he keeps it up.
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Here is a link to the saved original training log:
Lizard Training of Two Savana Monitors
They later had an edited version on their website, which they changed because of the intense criticism they received. I am not sure whether the edited version exists on the internet anymore or not. If someone comes across the 'revised' training log, you will find the changes interesting.
As far as charges of character assassination against me and others; they have also accused me and others of slander. The words above are their words, not mine or anyone else's. I did equate the above treatment as animal abuse and torture, but that is exactly what is described. Of particular note is that they have never posted a statement of any kind of regret whatsoever for the above abuse of their animal(s).
Hopefully, this explains, in part, all of 'the commotion' brought about in this thread.
Cheers,
Michael
