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09-18-2004, 01:52 PM
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Territorial Aggression
My 9 year old male ig, Bob 15" snout to vent length 51" snout to tail length 8 pounds, has just lost most of his outside time privledges because he claimed the yard as his territory and aggressivly defends it against most anything. Within his cage and the apartment he is fine even though he bobs his head.
Does anyone have suggestions on how to keep him from becoming so territorially aggressive in areas where I have to be also? As I have a med/small 2 bedroom apartment with three human roommates I have to share Bob's cage (4x8x6) with him. I am sitting in it as I type this in fact, I also sit in here to do most of my homework and reading too. I found out that the folding cordura sport chairs are rather comfortable to work in. Mark |
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09-18-2004, 07:20 PM
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by being aggresive I assume you mean hes trying to bite you or anyone else in his territory? not much you can do about it except let it run its course.
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09-18-2004, 08:03 PM
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Being aggressive = head bobbing, turning to a bright orange color, hatchet walking, charging at a full run, snapping, open mouth threatening, lunging to bite, climbing to get a better bite at flesh instead of clothing...
Thing is I am smart enough not to ask for a fight with a male ig of his size.
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09-18-2004, 09:10 PM
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your just going to have to keep flesh out of the way and ride it out. some people have had luck with giving the ig a green towel to take its aggresions out on or a green stuffed animal. take pics if you can its great stuff for education purposes
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09-18-2004, 11:14 PM
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Mark-
This is certainly a tough situation. Fortunately, for whatever reason, Rex has never defended a territory, not sure why. He's a free-roamer and maybe just confident that he is secure, that we won't eat his greens (more true than he even knows, LOL) and won't take his women, should one every happen to enter the house or yard in the first place. Or perhaps he just thinks that he dominates us and allowing us to live in HIS territory anyway. LOL One thing I would suggest is to throw off the territory, similar to what people do with a room or enclosure. Change things, add an element to the yard that he is unsure of. See how he responds to it. Does he attack it or shy away from it? Then reassert your position in the territory. But, all in all, he's simply being a large male iguana who knows he can intimidate people. If Rex were to pull something like that I would intervene in the extreme, probably bleed a bit, but never let him win the altercation. I have on occassion had to restrain Rex in a forceful manner (Pressing front shoulders and rear hips to the ground and immobilize him for severe misbehavior. He struggles violently, I certainly end up with tail lashes and scale abrasions, but I will simply not let him overpower me. It's not pretty, he hates it very much, but the point gets across. If I use forced restraint now, the fight is much less. Of course, during his nasty first heat, I ran screaming like a little girl and jumped up on the first high thing I could to escape the gape. LOL But, thank God we are past that now. In those situations, I used a towel to blind him and then shaking incredibly, secured him and moved him back to his enclosure. Mark, you know Bob better than anyone, and likewise, he knows you. My fear is if he thinks he can get this one over on you, he'll expand that thought process to other things and you may lose control altogether. Not good! Have you tried the garden hose method? Rex does not like to be squirted repeatedly by the hose, a quick soaking is fine, but prolonged and he tries to move away from it. When Bob postures (early on in the process) try squirting him down (the proverbial cold shower if you will) and see if it breaks the aggressive focus. Honestly, I'm throwing out things here in an attempt to find SOMETHING to stop this cycle of bad behavior. The downward spiral needs to be stopped as soon as possible. So, take it for what it's worth. I also defer to Steve's judgement here, he knows iguanas and their behavior incredibly well and I look forward to his suggestions too. Lastly, go to the Master, you have his e-mail addy, you ordered your lamps from him and he has more experience with aggressive males than anyone I know. In fact, I would suggest that as your best course of action here. Call on the Iguana-Whisperer and see what he advises.Most of all Mark, good luck. I hope you find a solution fast.
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09-19-2004, 12:51 AM
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The working solution at this point is stop letting him out in the yard. This would have happened anyway as I am in classes now and it is cooling down. He stayed inside for all of Friday then I let him out today and he was not too bad. I certanly don't let him get away with anything or do I let him win -- just my fingers don't take the front line.
Pinning him just makes it worse as he seemingly retaliates. I no longer have a hose so any water shower "weapon" would be of very short term use. I have found that simply picking him up works. I can pick him up by the base of his tail then get my other hand under him so I don't risk getting bitten. Holding him up almost noramally -- I hold him from underneath away from my body and firmly hold the base of his tale as well -- gets the point across that I am in charge and can move him where I want when I want. When he goes back down on the ground after this he is not too bad, for a while. He is fine in his house and shows no sign of changing. thanks for the help guys
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09-19-2004, 07:57 AM
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no hose is no problem I have a plant misting bottle that I can set to spray a fine mist or a stream of water while ive never had to use it for that purpose it doubles as a great way to add humidity. guess I just never really let jorge get to me when he had his nasty time. i diddnt exactly let him bite me but he grabed me a couple times and once while I was driving down the road he grabed me by the back of the neck I had to pull over and wait. something else you might want to try and I know it sounds silly but you could bob back at him copy his big head bobs I have done this with jorge when we had disputes as to who was in charge here he immediatly took a less defensive position . you have to call his name and be loud and firm while using the word no firmly. like Dom said break his concentration, best to get this under control now seeing as hes not that big jorge weighs in at 12 pounds and 19 inches snout to vent length but hes a puppy dog his only problem is little human contact outside of me. anyhow good luck and keep us posted
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09-19-2004, 12:33 PM
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Thinking back to when I started to take him out and let him walk around in the lawn I would put him down then walk away and tend my garden giving him free reign over the yard. His aggression slowly escalated over the summer and then moved across a state when I moved back to school. However, I have been around and with him nearly the whole time when he has been in his remodeled cage.
He has defended his territory against most things I have seen enter it. Three bunnies were chased off one day. A week later two ducks flew over him and landed about 5 meters away they promptly got charged, took off, and never came back. But he will not pull the wool over my eyes.
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