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04-07-2008, 02:09 AM
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Re: Reptile Zoo Visit
I dont remember where the article is, but I am not sure you really want to know how it is done,, it is really horriffic and extremely painful for the snake. Maybe in the morning I will look for it, lol. It was one of the most horrendous things that I have ever seen done. I personally do not agree with having the surgery just because you want to keep a venomous snake. I feel if you cannot deal with the snake in the all natural, then you really have no business having the snake. I dont remove the teeth and tails from my iguanas, and I have some pretty nasty scars from it, lol.
As far as him having his done, he has too,, the schools will not let him in to educate without him having that done. He does shows for this half of the state, so the many kids he educates I think overrides what I feel on the whole devenom thing. I personally will not have any done,, but then again I am not experienced enough to keep hots anyway and probably never will, so the situation does not pertain to me.
Another thing to think about,, in the wild they use the venom to subdue their prey,, does this have something to do with the natural digestion process for the snake?? So if you remove the venom,, are you really interferring with its digestion process, and will it cause long term problems,,,,,hmmmm...... things that make you go hmmmmm.....lol .
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04-07-2008, 02:21 AM
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Re: Reptile Zoo Visit
go up to the top of the page and type in VENOMOIDS, and it will bring you a list of some of the other threads that have been started with links to pics and so on.
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04-07-2008, 02:23 AM
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Re: Reptile Zoo Visit
From What I have read, or been told, it is essentialy a surgical procedure, in which the venom glands or ducts have been removed or destroyed. I can assume there are various ways of going about this, but its safe to assume a real professional venomoid procedure is done under anestesia, and if done correctly heals up, and does not scar, nor should it cause health problems. I would assume the best way it is done is a complete removal, and replacing the vacant space with either live tissue, or a implant, to not alter the appearance of the snake, or leave a open spot succeptible to infection. I have also however, heard of venomoid procedures in which the gland is simply seperated from the fangs and mouth, via a simple incision, though im unsure if this actualy works, as it does not sound like it would.
However, if not done correctly, i have also heard of the procedure killing the snake, or sometimes causing the death of the snake from infection, or other complications. And more often then not, the procedure is not done correctly.
Here's some reading material on venomoids, and the venomoid procedure.
Venomoid snakes
VENOMOIDINC.COM - Our Venomoids
Veterinary Ethics: What About Venomoids?
Venomoids: An Overview
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04-07-2008, 07:57 PM
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Re: Reptile Zoo Visit
you cant de venom a snake for good...i think..idk o.O
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04-07-2008, 08:40 PM
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Re: Reptile Zoo Visit
My curosity always gets the best of me. I read up on it this morning, and AHH... Horrible horrible horrible, Im glad the surgery through a vet is so expencive that not many can afford it. I think, If I ever owned a venomous (not something Im planning on), that I would just take my chances so the snake wouldnt have to go through that....
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04-07-2008, 11:13 PM
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Re: Reptile Zoo Visit
There's a very interesting article on a experimental method, kind of cutting edge as far as animal surgery goes. The incision is done through the roof of the mouth, and yields great results, however, the only vetrinarian that has experience in it, also does not perform the procedure for private parties, no matter the price. It can be a very horrible procedure, and there is some truth in not being abl to permenantly devenomate the snake, if it is done inncorectly, or sometimes (i've heard) even when done correctly, the snake can still produce, and deliver venom, though not near as much as normaly.
I still beleive its something that should be limited to edjucation purposes, due to the risks involved. But with all the breakthroughs we have in modern medicine, who knows how long until someone develops a procedure completely safe for the snake, laser surgery, microsurgery, so on. However, im not really sure if that would be a good thing or not, and fear it would be abused.
I do generaly agree however, that if you choose to keep venomous snakes, rather then changing the snake, you should yourself change, Just get really really fast. lol.
Really though. I think it may be in some cases (like the man who shows them at schools case) a neccesary evil.
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04-08-2008, 12:50 PM
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Ill just be 100% safe and just admire them at zoo's... lol
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