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02-09-2006, 06:58 PM
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death due to a bad mouse?
over summer I had my ball python died a week after eating a mouse I got at the local pet shop.
i think the mouse was sick or soemthing, but am not 100% sure if that could have done it. can a sick mouse result in a snake dying?
the python itself was a little over 3 feet long and had been eating live adult mice for a long while. he had heat via a lamp and water at all times and I cleaned his cage weekly. i fed him 2 or 3 mice every 2-3 weeks and eat them right away. he would slither around my hand and lap if I took him out, he still deficated so I know he diden't have a blockage. he had no signs of being sick at all and wasen't skinny or fat. then one morning a week after feeding him I went to turn on his light and saw him curled up but with his face out of his log hide pointing down into the bedding. reached in to see if he was ok and found that he was dead.
are my suspicions right? could the mouse I fed him the week earlier been sick and caused him to die?
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02-09-2006, 07:05 PM
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It is possible the mouse was the cause,,,which points to the benefits of feeding F/T. Where there any symptoms at all prior to his death ? any strange behavior whatsoever ? I ask this because I too lost a ball a few years ago to inclusion body disease, the symptoms began on day 1,,,he was gone by the begining of day 3.
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02-09-2006, 07:13 PM
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whats inclusion body disease?
nothing unusual that I can recall. he spent the week curled up in the log under the heatlamp. he did that often though so I diden't think to check on him.
and, now that I looked around the forums a bit more, i think I probably should have posted this topic in the health forum instead of the feeders :P
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02-09-2006, 07:25 PM
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inclusion body disease is Inclusion Body Disease, a neurological disorder that both boas and pythons are susceptible to. (and I moved the thread for ya !!!)
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02-09-2006, 10:31 PM
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can a sick mouse result in a snake dying?
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Snakes in the wild eat sick mice all the time. In fact the sick animals are the easiest prey and are the most often caught!
For an adult snake to die that quickly without exhibiting any signs makes me think of some sort of toxin.
Where did the mouse come from? A shop or did you catch it?
There is always the possibility that the mouse had ingested some sort of poison.
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02-09-2006, 10:43 PM
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got it at a local petshop that i ...hmm...i can't remember which petshop I got it from, thiers 4 of em around here.
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02-10-2006, 02:34 AM
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i fed him 2 or 3 mice every 2-3 weeks and eat them right away.
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You said you had this snake for 3 years right? I think you didn't feed him nearly enough. That is my opinion but my snake is only a foot and a half and eats more than that. Mine get's two small mice every week. In my opinion your snake might have died from starvation.
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02-10-2006, 09:40 AM
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woulden't he have been skinny then, or weak and lethargic?
he was strong, muscular, and active up until he died.
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02-10-2006, 10:26 AM
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Starvation would be visually very obvious.
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You may never know what killed the poor guy. The mouse could have eaten some kind of poison which killed your snake.
This is why you really want to buy only the best quality food-animals for your pets. I HIGHLY recommend feeding ONLY frozen/thawed rodents, as live rodents can kill your snake too. A rat killed a burmese python with one well-aimed bite through the head!
Also the freezing process kills any parasites, internal or external that a rodent might have. Generally F/T is also much cheaper than live too. Rodentpro.com is often recommended. (I don't live in the US, so I can't say that from personal experience.) But it's good to know where your feeders are coming from and get the best ones possible.
Sorry about your BP. I'd be devastated if anything happened to mine!
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