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This is what our member has to say: My Rainbow Boa Talyn seems to be obstructed. She is 6 years old: 7ft long and about 5 lbs. She has always eaten well (F/T ...


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 I helped move the meter!   02-07-2006, 02:45 PM
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Obstruction?

My Rainbow Boa Talyn seems to be obstructed. She is 6 years old: 7ft long and about 5 lbs.
She has always eaten well (F/T Rats) and defecated within one week after each meal.
She last ate on the 26th of December. I was away from the 28th of December till the 30th of January. My husband took care of all the snakes in my absence.
Her terrarium temps have always been in their usual range and Martin is very good about checking that several times a day. He also changed the water every day but he did not handle Talyn because she can be nasty.
She shed two and a half weeks later, but did not defecate. (That is unusual for her, as she usually passes some stool when she sheds.) According to Martin, she passed urates only once in the month I was gone.
It has now been 6 weeks since she last ate and 8 weeks since she last defecated.
I tried feeding her when I got back... she refused the rat. This was a first: she has never refused a meal. I tried again a week later... another refusal. I have taken her out every evening and soaked her in warm baths for 30+ minutes and massaged her belly. I've let her climb on the stair railings hoping that the "exercise" would get things moving. The vet previously recommended that we try injecting an isotonic solution into her cloaca. We've tried that and she passed a lot of hard urates and fluid and that encouraged me a bit... but that was 4 days ago and still no stool. We tried again this evening but so far only a small amount of urates have been passed.

The second half of her belly does not seem full...but her upper belly seems quite hard -- that worries me the most. I'm now afraid that she may be obstructed higher up in her digestive tract.

I always feed in a separate plastic container. I don't know of anything that could have caused the obstruction. I injected a bit of water in her throat yesterday since I have not seen her drinking at all since I've returned... not even in the bath -- although she may have drunk and I didn't see it.

If any of you have experience or thoughts on this, I'm all ears. If not, I'd appreciate your good wishes for her anyway.
I have an appointment at the vet for tomorrow afternoon. Fingers crossed!
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I'm sorry Andrea, I'm sure its very stressful for you. I have never dealt with an obstruction in a snake. I would probably be doing what you are. I know shes in good hands, please keep us posted.
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Thanks Marsha.
I'm happy to have gotten an appointment so soon as my herp vet doesn't work every day and only in the afternoon on Wednesdays. Although I can't imagine what she'll be able to do that we haven't tried.
I suppose she could take X-Rays, but I'm not sure what that would tell us. I can't imagine there's good news to be heard.
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I am hoping and praying for the best for Talyn....she is so beautiful...best wishes Andrea.....Lyn
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Andrea an Xray can tell you if it is an obstruction, where it is and possibly even what it is.
You have done everything I can think of so at this point its up to the vet (and Talyn)!
You have certainly been thru a time with her and I hope that everything works out ok.
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Hopefully, it's some sort of pseudopregnancy behaivor. Please let us know what the vet thinks. Best of luck!

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Eggs!!!?

Well, John, you're absolutely right!
Talyn has a whole belly full of eggs!!!!!!!!!! ???? She hasn't been with a male, so they are certainly unfertilized. I did not (consciously) cycle her this season, but she is getting to the age that is recommended for successful breeding (5-6 years old)
I'm not really sure what to expect... since she is a boa, I would not expect her to lay the eggs... or will she pass them as slugs? reabsorb them?
Is it too late to put her together with a male? (I know someone who has offered me a male rainbow boa.)

What a crazy thing... I'm relieved, but surprised.... what now???
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Hello,

I am glad to hear that it is nothing "serious". I didn't realize that Rainbows would lay without being bred. I just learned something!

You will have to wait for someone with experience with rainbows to answer the other questions.
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Well, I just got off the phone with the man who has a male available. (Last I heard it was busy copulating with one of his females, but I might be able to "borrow" him and put him together with Talyn tomorrow evening for a while.) I suppose if they mate, there's still a chance for fertilization; if she ignores him, it's probably too late.
I hope the X-rays and all the handling haven't damaged the eggs. I wasn't expecting to breed her yet, but I might just see what happens. She's got good weight on her (over 5lbs) so she could handle a pregnancy without a problem, I think.
I just have no idea when she ovulated: the eggs look cool --- quite large. I'll take a pic of the X-rays and post them here when I get them. (My vet wanted to show them to her husband -- also a vet-- and to the head of the reptile section at the zoo.)
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Whew! at least you know what the problem is now!
I too did not realize that snakes would develop unfertilized eggs!
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