due to stress...the 90 gallon I got for sally and jack semms to be stressing them out big time....neither of them ate for 4 days..the first 2 days I was like ohk...they are adjusting...but I was just too worried to risk anything else being wrong with them so it was back to the vet..again, lol and the vet checked for impactation, i had fecial samples for him, no parasites he said it is prob from stress....which sounds about rite, they hardly sleep in the enclosure, last nite I had to take the 2 of em out and let them fall asleep with me then I put them backand they slep for a couple of hours but before I knew it they were back up running around frantically, and scratching on the sides..they get on the branches I have fro them and jump into the sides of the tank..maybe they think they are going to get out..i honestly dont understand what is stressing them out so much....all the extra room?maybe they dont feel secure..but I have plenty of hides for them...i guess im gonna have to put them back in the 65..the vet told me to just blend up some crix, mealies calcium, gatorade or pedialate, **** it up in they syringe and feed it to em that way...any other ideas of why they have such a lack of appetite?? i never knew moving would stress em so bad

Here's an idea: put them inside their old cage with the lid on and all and then put the old cage inside of the new one (assuming it will fit). Leave them in there for a couple weeks to get their bearings and then see how they like the new one. What kinds of hides are you using?

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1.0 anerythristic boa constrictor imperator: Severus Snake
1.1 rats: Eowyn, Gandalf
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3.0 dogs: Strider (Aussie/husky), Zoso (Belgian Malinois), Buck (husky/Rottweiler)

How do you have your lighting set up? Is there any chance that they are seeing their reflections in the glass? This is a really BIG problem with water dragons- not just because they injury themselves on the glass, but because the reflections stress them. The reflections might make them see themselves in the glass but they don't understand that so they think other dragons are trying to get into their territory and they freak and or stress.

Adjust your lighting to limit reflections.

Also .. whether refections are a problem or not ... the dragons will feel more secure in their new home if you put some paper up around the outside of the tank (6 inches high (or higher)- from the bottom up). They won't be able to see out as easily and they will feel more sheltered in their home.

What can they see from their new home? Is it in the same room/ same position as the previous tank? If it isn't ... really look closely at what they can see. Can they see outside? Tree branches moving in the wind, birds and planes flying overhead (even as small as tiny specks in the sky) can freak them out. Can they see more activity in the room from where they are now? Can they see other animals?

Sit down and think about what is bothering them. It could be any of the things that I've listed above or something else that only you will be able to figure out once you sit down and start thinking like a water dragon.

BTW the scratching on the glass and jumping into the sides of the tank from the branches is what is making me think they are seeing their reflections. Change angles of bulbs if possible and use the paper around the outside- it's a simple but very effective fix.

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thanks im going to put paper around their cage rite now...and they can see alot more then they could see before, as their cage is higher and I have them up on a higher stand...no other animls but I know they can see the tv clear as day..and its on AP alot...and I know they dont understand the concept of tv! LOL and they see everyone who comes in and out of my room, i notice they freak out alot when ppl they dont recognize come in..they havnt gotten any better since the vet visit, as I said they dont sleep or eat...the only time they are calm is when they are out..which would make sense because they arnt seeing any reflections..thank you so much for your advice!!ill let you know how the paper around the cage works

How did it go? I hope they are settling down now. BTW make sure the paper isn't near any heat sources. I know you know that ... but I had to say it.

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they are sooo much better!! thank you so much for your advice , they arnt jumping around like psychos anymore, and they are eating crix and mealies again..but not very many, sally ate 6 crix and jack ate 4 crix and about 10 mealies...about how long should it take for them to start eating as much as they did before? theyve lost alot of weight ill post pics later on of how thin they are now..compared to what they were...lol, no, the paper isnt near any lights.... another question, i have their water heated to about 80 deg. is that warm enuff for them? and im having a hard time keeping the humidity up, the highest I seem to get it to is about 73% and I know its supposed to be 80%, i have a big water bowl, and a mister thats set on misting 2 times a day...what else can I do? i was thinking about getting somelive plants and maybe another water dish...waht type of plants would you suggest?

I'm glad to hear that the dragons are doing better and that they are a bit more relaxed. That's great. It might take them a little while to start fully eating and acting normally again- after all, they are still in a new home and while some of the fixes you did this week cut down on their sources of stress they can still probably see some things they aren't used to ... give them a week or two. As long as they are eating a bit, drinking and starting to act a bit closer to normal I think that's good.

80 F water should be warm enough. I never did heat my water area- the ambient temp of the cage kept the water at about 80 F during the day. I was happy with that and they didn't mind that temp. 73% humidity isn't too bad. Is is that high most of the time? I think you are close enough to the ideal of 80% to not worry too much.

Now that the weather is cooler and the air is drier in the home you could put a humidifier in the room that they are in (as long as you don't have reps that need really dry climatic conditions in the same room of course). That might help maintain the cage humidity as well.

Adding some live plants might help the humidity. I used ficus tree's (small of course), small hibiscus, pothos ... ferns and spider plants can be used as well, as can bromilaids. If you decide to use live plants you might want to grow some "spares" outside the cage too. That way when the live plants start too look shredded you can put the "spares" in the cage and take out the shredded ones so that they can recover elsewhere.

Hope this helps!

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thanks, it does ..usually its 80 or just below it like 78/79..thats why I was a bit worried