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My son received a green iguana as a birthday present. We have him in a 10 gallon aquarium with a red uv light at night and he is in front of the window full sun during the day at at least 90 degrees. It is a small one and I do not know the sex. This iguana is not moving very much and appears to be cold to touch. It has eaten squash and kale and seems to be drinking put I do not see were it is going to the bathroom. We are using reptile bark for the flooring. We also were given a heat rock and the pet store told me to unplug it because they could burn their insides. WE have a rock cave in there that he can go into. I am very concerned that he is not moving much. when I pick him up he stays right there and just opens his mouth at us like he is mad. I do not know the history before we received him. Can you advise.

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Hello,

First things first: Iguana Caresheet

Now I am going to pick apart your post to list corrections to the husbandry.

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My son received a green iguana as a birthday present.
Iguanas should not be given as gifts, though they often are. The misconception of that cute little lizard is that it will remain as the cute little lizard it was purchased as. It will actually turn into a 5-6 foot lizard, and it will not be nearly as cute and friendly as it is now. (Of course this can be changed with socialization and your interpretation of cute. I personally think my ig is beautiful. lol)

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We have him in a 10 gallon aquarium with a red uv light at night and he is in front of the window full sun during the day at at least 90 degrees.
Every bit of that needs some correcting. I will start with the tank. That is way to small for an iguana. The smallest tank he should be in right now is a 55 gallon. Iguanas need room to move and stretch. Though he is tiny right now, he will be much larger in 6 months from now. I suggest upgrading the tank asap.

Now, when thinking of upgrading the tank. You may want to consider upgrading it to his adult size enclosure. It can get expensive if you upgrade as he grows, so going straight to the adult size would save you a great deal of money.

The smallest dimensions you should have for an adult enclosure is:

6 feet high, 4 feet wide, by 4 feet deep

As you can see, that is a large tank. That is not as large as it appears when there is a full grown iguana in it. In all actuality, I suggest an enclosure that is 6 feet high, 6 feet long, and 4-5 feet deep.

That red light is not UV emitting. A quality UV light, that produces true UV, can be located here: Reptile UV

That is the absolute best light on the market!

That window, and the glass of the aquarium, are blocking all of the beneficial UV. In addition to that, you are not offering a cooler end of the enclosure for the iguana to retreat to in order to thermo-regulate. You will need to supply a heat gradient to the enclosure the ig is in with artificial heating and lighting. This is another reason a 10 gallon tank is not a good idea. That is almost impossible to create in such a small tank!

(If you are using a radial thermometer,or a flat one that adheres to the glass, that 90 degree reading is most likely inaccurate. (Especially if you are having the thermometer facing where the sun comes in!) The ones that are flat are actually reading the glasses temp and not the air. The radial ones are ok, but if direct sun or artificial heat are hitting it, it will not output accurate readings. The coil mechanism inside will be heating up from the heat source, and not the actual ambient temperatures.

Once you have your ig adjusted, you can take him outside for some unfiltered UV. When in the house though, you need to provide his heat, humidity, and UV. (Use caution when taking an iguana outside. They are fast and can move up trees as fast as we can run on solid ground. There are harnesses and leashes designed for iguanas.

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It is a small one and I do not know the sex. This iguana is not moving very much and appears to be cold to touch.
You won't be able to sex him/her with certainty until the iguana is a 1 to 1 1/2 years old.

He is cold because he is not getting the proper heat gradient. This is not good and can cause problems with his digestion, as well as other ailments and sickness.

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It has eaten squash and kale and seems to be drinking put I do not see were it is going to the bathroom.
He may be eating and drinking, but if the temps are not adequate, he is not digesting. Since he is not digesting, it will not produce a bowel movement! If the iguana is not digesting the food, he can also become ill as the food sits in his stomach.

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We are using reptile bark for the flooring.
That's a severe impaction risk and should be removed. I suggest either repti-carpet or linoleum.

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We also were given a heat rock and the pet store told me to unplug it because they could burn their insides.
They are right. In fact, just cut the cord right off of it and use it as a tank decoration. Those have caused thermal burns in various species, including iguanas.

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WE have a rock cave in there that he can go into.
There is no harm in that, but most igs don't hide in caves. They are normally found at the highest point of the enclosure basking in the heat and UV you are supplying.

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I am very concerned that he is not moving much. when I pick him up he stays right there and just opens his mouth at us like he is mad.
He isn't active because he is cold. He is cold blooded. Without you supplying the proper temps, he will remain dormant and eventually whither away and die. Inadequate temps are the root cause of many different problems. It also prevents digestion, which means he isn't getting the needed nutrients required to survive.

His mouth being open, aka: "gaping", can be caused by a few things. Since it happens when you are holding him, I suspect it is his warning. You are much bigger than he is. You are a threat to him because of this. (Thats what he percieves anyways.) He is most likely warning you that he is prepared to bite if you do anything he isn't comfortable with.

Gaping can also be when the iguana is cooling himself. If temperatures are higher than needed, or he hasn't moved for a long period of time, they will gap like a dog pants to help cool themselves. It is their form of sweating.

This also occurs with respitory infections (RI). In addition to the gapping, you will hear some noises when the ig breathes. (It's very similar to a chest cold in humans. If not taken care of properly, it can kill a reptile.)

Iguanas are not simple nor cheap reptiles to care for. They have specific needs that we need to supply. The iguana caresheet I posted should help you get started. You can also check out: http://www.iguanacenter.com

I highly suggest grabbing some literature as well. James Hatfield III has a great book called "The Ultimate Iguana Owners Manual." (Preferred reading.)

Melissa Kaplan also has one out called "Iguanas For Dummies". It too is good. (Not as good as Hatfields by opinion.)

Feel free to keep posting questions though! lol many of us are Iguana slaves.
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Rich has pretty much got it covered and I second it. I would also add that a green iguana is a serious lifelong commitment. Properly cared for they have a life expectancy of 15-20 years and I have read about one that made it to 32! They also get quite large with adult males reaching 6ft. This can be a formidable animal if not properly socialized and there are numerous cases of adult iguanas sending their owners to the emergency room! Don't get me wrong. Iguanas are great pets IF IN THE PROPER HANDS! Iguanas really aren't good pets for children. They frequently lose interest in the animal or move away from home and the parent gets stuck with caring for it.
They are very complicated and expensive to keep in good health. However if you decide to go ahead with this venture we are here to help.
And I prefer Hatfield's book over Kaplin's.
More up to date and MUCH easier to read.
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Looks like Rich and Merlin have you quite taken care of you are in good hands with thier info. Be sure and check out IguanaCenter ( A Herp Center Network Site ) as Rich mentioned, lots of great info there...
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Wow Guys...well said....I agree with all the fantastic advice....best wishes with your new pet and let us know if you have any further questions....Lyn
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Lots of great advice, I'd like to chime in with Merlin and recommend Hatfield's book over Kaplan's, easier for a beginner to get a handle on. (And you don't have to wade through all the controversy surrounding the author.)
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(And you don't have to wade through all the controversy surrounding the author.)
LOL! So very true!

I also agree with all the excellent information Rich and Merlin so carefully types out. Lots for you to do!

I would add to this that the iguana needs to see a qualified herp vet, preferably a vet who specializes in iguanas. There it should have a complete physical and fecal test to make sure he's not harboring any parasites. Remember Iguanas carry salmonella in their poop, so be hygiene-conscious.

Perhaps you could find the person who decided to give your son this "gift" and allow them to learn all about this poor species, who suffer so much at our ignorant hands.

I hope you decide to make the adjustments and keep the iguana. They are wonderful creatures, just expensive and difficult to keep.

Goos luck to you!
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I know that this isn't high on the worry list right now, but iguanas also have high humidity requirments, be sure that you don't skip over those parts of the caresheets, but don't start trying to get things more humid until you've achieved the proper temps.

Oh, and putting in my two cents worth, I liked Melissa Kaplan's book better than James Hattfield's, but that is just my opinion, they are both very good resources and I consult both of them if I have a question, if the books dont cover it well enoughI turn to everyone on Iguana Center...my questions never go unanswered...and i'm a bit of a hypocondriac so I have alot of questions!

Good Luck, hopefully you get him back to proper health so that someday you can experience the joys of breeding season (male or female, it doesn't matter it can still be rough!)
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Ditto to what Rich said. Unfortunately, green iguanas are marketed as being great pets by the pet industry. They sell cute little babies cheap, but they don't tell you that the baby will grow into a 6 foot lizard with care requirements that far surpass most other lizards. They need a lot of room, fancy (and expensive) lighting, a complex and nutritious diet, and if not handled properly, they can be aggressive and dangerous once full grown. If the pet store told you all that, they'd never sell any and they'd make no profit, hence why they don't tell you.
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I totally agree with the advice that Rich, Merlin, Dom and all the others who replied stated. However I do want to let Cheri know that I'm happy that she came here seeking advice. I hope that your son's birthday was recent ... if it was a while back the iguana might also be suffering from other conditions (calcium deficiency) due to the lack of proper heat and lighting for a long period. This is your son's pet, but as others have stated caring for a growing iguana can be quite an undertaking so it's very important that he has help from adults.

 


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