Help to id 2 types of frogs please.

I assume both are species of tree frogs.

One green and one tan.

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I have seen both of these in China. I would apreciate your help.

Thankyou in advance.

Vmpwraith.

(This post editted by Rich and the images inserted directly. These are as clear as they get everyone.)

Welcome to HCN!
Since I am amphibian ignorant:o I am afraid I can't help you with your frogs but we have a couple of folks who probably can.
They should be by later.

Welcome to Herp Center, like Merlin I don't know a lot about frogs but other do and they will be dropping in soon.

The first one looks like some type of green tree frog, not sure about the brownish one.. ,,sorry, wish I could be more help.

Our ID people will be along....welcome to HC Network! the frogs are cute though.....

ok... firstly clearer pics would help out alot. but most impotant... where are these frogs from....did you find them or are they captives. Location means everything.

Are they from china or have you found these in the US??

Ok i'll try to get clearer photos but my cameras a bit budget and blurs at close range so i'll try to borrow one. Both were brought in China which is were i currently live.

Cheers
Vmpwraith

This might help a bit, we have two simular frogs and they change colors. This depends on stress, moisture, blending in with the surroundings etc.

Hope these help. Bad news I'm afraid, the brown one has died. It was in bad shape when I got it but hoped it would come around.

Wow, you sure like giving us a challenge huh Considering you're from China it's hard to say if they're from there or not, I'm not sure what species are commonly seen in captivity there. The brown may be Polypedates sp, but that's just a quick observation since I know the genus is native to east Asia and looks similar to that frog. I'll focus on the green one fpr now though since it's still alive.

For starters, it looks almost American, but looks can be deceiving. I'm not exactly up to par with your native wildlife. There are a few American species it bears resemblance to though. It looks somewhat like a pine barrens tree frog (Hyla andersonii), squirrel tree frog (Hyla squirella), or pacific tree frog/pacific chorus frog (Hyla regilla/ Pseudacris regilla)

I've never known any of the above species to be common in the pet trade, and I'm not even sure pine barrens tree frogs are legal to sell, but perhaps these species would be more exotic/ desirable to the Chinese pet trade than they are here since they're not found in China. Pine barrens are generally darker along the belly than your frog though. Squirrel tree frogs are more often patternless and look closer to an American green tree frog than anything else, but they sometimes have dark stripes like yours. Pacific tree frogs are often heavily patterned, as Lacey can attest to (she keeps some), but they're also found in patternless green like yours, with only the dark mask, as seen here:

http://hmenck.com/Thumbnails/pacific_tree_frog-01.jpg
http://www.astocker.com/pg/04/06para...8/Img_4052.jpg

It also sort of looks like a common tree frog/ European green tree frog (Hyla arborea), but the dark region between between the eye and the nostril is typically much thinner in this species. It's also highly possible it's none of these, and in fact could be something native to your region, but I'll have to look more into that. It definitely looks Hyla sp. though.