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Reading the Leo care sheet. Do you need something for heat and for light? I prefer not to use a Under Tank Heater heater. Can a lamp be used to heat the tank as well as provide light? Since they are nocturnal I don't know if they need light, but I think yes. How do I know what wattage?

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You can use a heat bulb for both light and heat, but you will also need heat at night and you wont need the light. You can use a ceramic heat emitter for heat. For the wattage you may have to play with different bulbs to get the right temp for your tank.
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It would be better for a Under Tank Heater just because its easier for them to digest food when the heat is directly on their bellies. If you do end up getting a lamp of some sort make sure u have a rock that absorbs heat *NOT A HOT ROCK* that they can lay on.

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I don't really see using a Under Tank Heater over a heat lamp as a 'better' idea. I use both, I have 2 with heat pads and 2 with lights. Like JoeKing said though you need to make sure you have something to absorb the heat of the lamp. Be sure to get digital thermometers so you can adjust the light wattage as needed.
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I have a "red" light bulb over my leo tank. It warms them enough for day and night and I can still see them moving around at night....they dont seem to mind the lighting at all....
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Yes sorry I don't think it's better but I think it's more convenient and uses less power and you don't need to fill the place with slate that way if you don't want to

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It's just easier to use and Under Tank Heater. What's your big issue with them?? Bad experience? They are not the expensive like 10-15 dollars. Well good luck!!

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My hubby is general cold so our house is sent at 72. Would we still need heat at night? I also bought for my future fiddler crabs a Bi-Light. He has this on the tank now and does not like how it rocks on the screens hidge. I purchased him a hidged screen hood as well for his tank. I know it is not a big deal, but is there a way to make it so whatever we put on top does not move? We need a top. I have a cat and a 18 month old human.

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I want to make sure I totally understand, it is late and I am kinda really tired and can't sleep, but see if I made sense of this.

You house is at 72 degrees, and you want to know if that is an acceptable temperature.
- That is an okay temperature for at night, the reading I have done, says that the day time should be in the vaccinity of 85 degrees (82-88), and at night should be 10 to 15 degrees cooler (70-75). 72 sounds okay, however I would consider the Under Tank Heater just as a stand by, it can't hurt, and it eliminates the possibility of an accidental draft lowering the temperature, especially since it is going into the winter, and is not going to be warming up for a while.

You have a hinged screen lid, and need a lid to prevent other animals and children from getting to him. I assume that the hinge is basically right in the middle.
- I am not sure what kind of enclosure the gecko is in, but you may want to look into getting a solid cover that is not hinged that clips down, they make them to fit standard aquarium sizes and they are relatively inexpensive. This way whatever you sit on top sits level. If you like the lid you have, you may want to look into setting smaller heat lamps on top that only go on half of the lid so they are not wobbling. If you use the lamp, you are going to want to put a slate piece under it so that it absorbs the heat.

You don't like Under Tank Heater's
- For the people that disagree with you about Under Tank Heater's, there are a lot of risks, no matter how minor. They could cause a fire, they could over heat, they could do a lot of things. I understand your concern especially if there is a little one running around.

A heat lamp poses all the same problems, it is just a little more conventional meaning that it seems more traditional and less likely to pose problems. Heat lamps can cook reptiles if not used properly and they are equally apt to fires. They can also be a problem if your child or cat knocks them over, they can burn the child and the cat; this is not a risk with a Under Tank Heater, as the child or cat would have to knock over the whole enclosure, in which case, the Under Tank Heater is the least of your concerns. The Under Tank Heater also heats the substrate which is where the Leo will spend most of his time, light heats the air and the very surface of the substrate which makes for higher temperature variance, and I assure you the Leo will not spend a lot of time in the air. The heat from the substrate will keep the air warm enough and if you desire you can always use a light for show, but since the substrate is already heated, it can be low wattage with a lower heat output.

I would like to end this ponting out that I don't currently have a leo, but helped my cousin design his habitat a year ago his little guy is still alive and very healthy. He uses a Under Tank Heater and 2 60watt desk lights just to shed light on the enclose, as well as minor amounts of air heat since it is a bit cold in MD, and they don't heat their house to 72, one is a red nocturnal light, the other is just a sylvania reveal bulb; the nocturnal is on round the clock this time of year, and the bright light is on during the day, he has guages, and timers for the whole thing to regulate the temperature and light cycle.

Good luck with everything, I hope my rambling helped. If not, I'm sure there are a lot of people here with A LOT more experience than me that will be able to help you.
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I did mean 72 as nighttime tempature.

I have been reading about lights. I see now I need a seperate one for artificial light. I was thinking one bulb did both. So if I just have a bulb for light and a Under Tank Heater for heat on the hidged lid.

The Under Tank Heater heaters don't seem to tell me what temperature they go to. Then I have read I can connect them to something else that controls this. I suppose the same issue can happend with lights as well.

I see a "Kit" that comes with a Under Tank Heater that is the size for a 20 gallon, spray bottle and bowl. It is selling for the same price as just buying the Under Tank Heater. Son could use the spray bottle for the anoles or the moist pit.

I am just thinking outloud

Everyone is helpful. Thank you. I am still going to study the whole thing more before we bring a critter home.

 


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