so what do you think is the smartest group of herps? also what individual herp out of that group is the smartest of them all? I'm betting its varanids but ive seen turtles do some smart things too.

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obsoleta lindheimeri(texas ratsnake)
varanus nilocticus(nile monitor)
Sternotherus odoratus(musk turtle)
pagona minor(2)(bearded dragons breeding pair)

oh a tough one..... no doubt snakes are pretty dumb(sorry my friends)

i would have the toss up between tortoises and varanids aswell....i have heard of tortoises learning tricks and stuff but will go with varanids. they are said to be about as smart as a parakeet...for a reptile that is like einstein or me

crocs are smart too tho...but monitors win!

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I chose varanids, Ive got to say my monitor is pretty smart sometimes.

I'm so sorry, please excuse my ignorance but what are varanids?, anoher word for lizards, or a species...it's late, I'm confused...
btw I def reckon lizards are the smartest. My Bearded Dragon knows when he's going to be fed his treat byt the way the box I used it shaped. Ionce put up 3 different boxes, and he still picked the right one...how do they do it???

Varanids are monitors

varanids are the genus of monitor lizards(eg. of some varanids....savannah monitor, nile monitor...)


otherwords...varanids are monitor lizards...haha...don't worry it is late

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I say lizards- varanids. Also, my skinks know a few tricks between begging for food and standing on back legs and jumping for crickets after a delay. GO SKINKS!

Oh yeah, by the way there Grim...Turtles and tortoises are closer to each other than varanids and chameleons, so maybe you should next time include turtles and torts (chelonians) in one big group and split up the lizards, who are the most diverse.

Definitely the lizards. (I have had some pretty dumb lizards though, so not ALL lizards)

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I HAVE to say lizards after having my Water dragons lol...and leopard geckos...

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I will have to go with lizards. I have seen my Iguana do some amazing things. She knows how to open her cage door (when it is unlocked) and comes and goes as she pleases.
She also has figured out that the kitchen is the best place to scrounge for goodies!
You ought to hear the sound a big ig makes when she finds and eats a cheeto.
(dropped by visiting grandkids! NOT part of her regular diet!)

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