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View Poll Results: smartest group of herps
snakes 6 11.32%
lizards 38 71.70%
turtles 0 0%
tortoises 2 3.77%
crocodilians 7 13.21%
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08-28-2006, 08:12 PM
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This poll and discussion is regarding currently living species and has nothing to do with dinosaurs.
Please keep the discussion in the present time.
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08-28-2006, 09:17 PM
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Sharks, many other types of fish (including the caregivers) and parrots are considered intelligent.

Now say your gecko’s name while not being visible and try saying it’s name while completely ignoring it. Most people suggest their animal’s know what’s what when in terms the animals are reacting to an obvious action or the presence of a certain source.


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"Crocodilians have been noted to have the ability of making complexed signals using visual, auditory, chemical and tactile cues" - I guess the hyperdeveloped olfactory of broad headed skinks with their courtship is nothing...not to mention the colors of chameleons, the head bobbing of my gold skinks...Doesn't hold ground. Sensory reception in no way relates to intelligence.
Ok.. Try getting your Gecko, some chameleons and a handful of skinks to step back twice and the spin after showing the animal a yellow square or having the animal jump up after presenting the smell of Orange juice. Let me know how that goes.

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Pack hunting and the fishing behavior is something that can be attributed to instinct and simple social cues, not necessarily problem solving.
But it could be, and all animals that inhabits this behavior happen to be of some sort of higher intelligence within the regards of the saying group.

Either way, like I've said, visible veiw of things are over analyzed or over subjected. When it breaks down to a scientific database, that's where you will learn the truth. In which case, why is everyone choosing lizards?

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"This poll and discussion is regarding currently living species and has nothing to do with dinosaurs.
Please keep the discussion in the present time."


Merlin, I did NOT mention Dinosaurs...I mentioned the ancestors (or probable ancestors) of turtles to illustrate the point that this is in fact comparing apples and oranges. It applies.


"Ok.. Try getting your Gecko, some chameleons and a handful of skinks to step back twice and the spin after showing the animal a yellow square or having the animal jump up after presenting the smell of Orange juice. Let me know how that goes."

-I don't have to. Ever seen Cirque du soliel? Oh wait, no...no. Those are PEOPLE. lol

I concur with you on the breakdown of scientific facts.
I picked lizards cause they are the coolest by an observed margin.

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You ought to hear the sound a big ig makes when she finds and eats a cheeto.
(dropped by visiting grandkids! NOT part of her regular diet!)
Strangely enough I know the exact reaction you speak of Taz loved Cheetos (also not part of his diet, but he was a crafty little brat and didnt like staying in his room)
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I picked lizards cause they are the coolest by an observed margin.

To be honest, excluding science, I'm biased as well.
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My vote goes for Crocodilians.. I've read that Crocodilians' brains are the most developed brains among all reptiles!

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my chams did maths once.... 1+1= 12 they never got the answer right but I was happy with their answer... i am sure many can agree! haha
Really, when my cham did math..1+1=11, 1-1=11 and 2+1=...well you guessed it..11!!

And my "lifeless pile of scales" just happens to be a well respected brain surgeon. Go figure!

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I picked varanids because ive seen my nile monitor do some inexeplicably smart things. After the time he got loose and I put him back in the tank, he immediatley remembered how he got out and went to the exact same place in the cage(which had now been escape proofed) and attempted escape again. He also figured out how to hide in a blind spot of my cage when I opened it so I couldn't find him then when he got a chance he tried to bolt out the top of the enclosure again(ive observed him doing this several times) One of his more favorite tricks now is the flicking of dirt directly into my eyes when I open the the top of his tank.(though this could be more of an instinctive behaviour) he uses the chance to bolt out of his cage if he has time. If I ever rearrange the inside of his enclosure he spends a whole day testing it for areas where he could possibly escape. Some of that could be instinctive behaviours but the remembering exactly how he escaped seems rather intelligent for a herp, to me anyways.
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my gold skinks do the same thing...lol. They are supposed to be slow, stupid and lethargic...what gives with all this energy and intelligence?

 


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