Just wondering if anyone knew the finer points of english law and herbs, know the basic idea of "if it can kill ya in one bite=padlocks+and paper work" i don't plan to get something like this but I do plan to get a varitey as I can start to take care of them right, and this question been bugging me for a while no i'm rambleing so bye

I think that unless you intend keeping crocs or poisonous spiders there isn't really any restrictions.

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Kirsty
0.0.1 Green Iguana

Isn't it a capitol crime if your rosemary or thyme gets into your neighbors garden? Sorry< I couldn't resist.

Craig

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Gems of the Rainforest

I know the law in northern ireland is just about to have a major shake up.
If you want to keep poisonous snakes.... spiders.... or any dangerous herp you will need a visit and you have to show the unit it will be kept in. This is before a license is issued.
The unit needs to have 2 doors.... ie you need to open a lockable outter door then an inner door to gain access. This unit then needs to be in a locked room.
I also believe you will be background checked as well.
as far as I know this brings us into line with the rest of the UK.
This is info I have been told and may be incorrect but as far as I know its right. ;-)

LOL! Somehow I knew something like that was coming!

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Merlin,
What's Life Without A Little Magic!

Ok lets clear some things up here....

at present there are NO restrictions on:

non-venomous snake and some rear-fanged snakes (mildly venomous),
non-venomous lizards (including the big Varanus sp except komodoensis),
anphibians
tarantulas, scorps and other inverts

There are restrictions on

venomous snakes
crocodilians (including caimen)
venomous lizards (gila monster and mexican beaded lizard)
some true spiders
for these you will require a DWA (Dangerous Wild Animal) licence, these cost money and training time etc

To find out about all the DWA restrictions contact DEFRA

*edit* Other restriction come from animals listed on CITIES, these require paperwork and micro chippping.....although any animal you buy that is listed on CITIES should come with these things anyway...it is always good to know what is listed so you can make sure that any animal you purchase come with the correct papers etc

Here is a condesed list of how all reptiles fall into what CITIES annex (I have cut it down to only show the ones where documentation and micro-chipping is required - Annex A....I have the full list of where every animal fall if any one would like me to post it..)

CITES


Reptilia

Testudines
Cheloniidae
Species EU-Annex CITES

Caretta caretta Annex A Appendix I
Lepidochelys kempii Annex A Appendix I
Lepidochelys olivacea Annex A Appendix I
Chelonia mydas Annex A Appendix I
Eretmochelys imbricata Annex A Appendix I
Natator depressa Annex A Appendix I

Dermochelyidae
Species EU-Annex CITES

Dermochelys coriacea Annex A Appendix I

Emydidae (incl. Geoemydidae)
Species EU-Annex CITES

Batagur baska Annex A Appendix I
Clemmys muhlenbergi Annex A Appendix I
Geoclemys hamiltonii Annex A Appendix I
Kachuga tecta Annex A Appendix I
Mauremys caspica Annex A Appendix I
Mauremys leprosa Annex A Appendix I
Melanochelys tricarinata Annex A Appendix I
Morenia ocellata Annex A Appendix I
Terrapene coahuila Annex A Appendix I

Testudinidae
Species EU-Annex CITES

Chelonoidis nigra Annex A Appendix II
Geochelone radiata Annex A Appendix I
Geochelone yniphora Annex A Appendix I
Gopherus flavomarginatus Annex A Appendix I
Homopus bergeri Annex A Appendix II
Malacochersus tornieri Annex A Appendix I
Psammobates geometricus Annex A Appendix I
Pyxis planicauda Annex A Appendix I
Testudo graeca Annex A Appendix II
Testudo hermanni Annex A Appendix II
Testudo kleinmanni Annex A Appendix I
Testudo marginata Annex A Appendix II
Testudo werneri Annex A Appendix I

Trionychidae
Species EU-Annex CITES

Aspideretes ater Annex A Appendix I
Aspideretes gangeticus Annex A Appendix I
Aspideretes hurum Annex A Appendix I
Aspideretes nigricans Annex A Appendix I

Chelidae
Species EU-Annex CITES

Pseudemydura umbrina Annex A Appendix I

Crocodylia
Alligatoridae
Species EU-Annex CITES

Alligator sinensis Annex A Appendix I
Caiman c. apaporiensis Annex A Appendix I
Caiman latirostris Annex A Appendix I
Melanosuchus niger Annex A Appendix I

Crocodylidae
Species EU-Annex CITES

Crocodylus acutus Annex A Appendix I
Crocodylus cataphractus Annex A Appendix I
Crocodylus intermedius Annex A Appendix I
Crocodylus moreletii Annex A Appendix I
Crocodylus niloticus Annex A Appendix I
Crocodylus novaeguineae mindorensis Annex A Appendix I
Crocodylus palustris Annex A Appendix I
Crocodylus porosus Annex A Appendix I
Crocodylus rhombifer Annex A Appendix I
Crocodylus siamensis Annex A Appendix I
Osteolaemus tetraspis Annex A Appendix I
Tomistoma schlegelii Annex A Appendix I

Gavialidae
Species EU-Annex CITES

Gavialis gangeticus Annex A Appendix I

Rhynchocephalia
Sphenodontidae
Species EU-Annex CITES

Sphenodon guntheri Annex A Appendix I
Sphenodon punctatus Annex A Appendix I

Squamata
Gekkonidae
Species EU-Annex CITES

Phelsuma guentheri Annex A Appendix II

Iguanidae
Species EU-Annex CITES

Brachylophus fasciatus Annex A Appendix I
Brachylophus vitiensis Annex A Appendix I
Cyclura carinata Annex A Appendix I
Cyclura collei Annex A Appendix I
Cyclura cornuta Annex A Appendix I
Cyclura cychlura Annex A Appendix I
Cyclura nubila Annex A Appendix I
Cyclura pinguis Annex A Appendix I
Cyclura ricordi Annex A Appendix I
Cyclura rileyi Annex A Appendix I
Sauromalus varius Annex A Appendix I

Chamaeleonidae
Species EU-Annex CITES

Brookesia perarmata Annex A Appendix I
Chamaeleo chamaeleon Annex A Appendix II

Lacertidae
Species EU-Annex CITES

Gallotia simonyi Annex A Appendix I
Podarcis lilfordi Annex A Appendix II
Podarcis pityusensis Annex A Appendix II

Varanidae
Species EU-Annex CITES

Varanus flavescens Annex A Appendix I
Varanus griseus Annex A Appendix I
Varanus komodoensis Annex A Appendix I
Varanus olivaceus Annex A Appendix I

Boidae
Species EU-Annex CITES

Acrantophis dumerili Annex A Appendix I (now Boa dumerili)
Acrantophis madagascariensis Annex A Appendix I (now Boa madagascariensis)
Boa constrictor occidentalis Annex A Appendix I
Casarea dussumieri Annex A Appendix I
Epicrates inornatus Annex A Appendix I
Epicrates monensis Annex A Appendix I
Epicrates subflavus Annex A Appendix I
Eryx jaculus Annex A Appendix I
Sanzinia madagascariensis Annex A Appendix I

Pythonidae
Species EU-Annex CITES

Python molurus molurus Annex A Appendix I

Bolyeidae
Species EU-Annex CITES

Bolyeria multocarinata Annex A Appendix I

Viperidae
Species EU-Annex CITES

Vipera ursinii Annex A Appendix I



Hope this clears some stuff up for you

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I'll think of something to put here soon.......

Also, check out what you are wanting to keep isn't listed on the CITES index as needing paperwork - I know some breeds of land toroise require various papers?

And the one thing that needs to be said is Welcome to the world of herping - I hope you get as much pleasure out of keepng herps as the rest of us do