like to hear your opinon

**SKULLMAN** · #1 03-02-2005, 06:06 PM

i hope this works,in Ontiaro we just got a ban on pitbulls.i do not own one myself,but knew friends who have and they were good dogs.i myself think it`s how you bring the dog up,i`ve seen peploe teach there dogs to be mean and bite and it can be done with any dog.i would like to hear what some of you think.
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mr. ian · #2 03-02-2005, 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SKULLMAN

i hope this works,in Ontiaro we just got a ban on pitbulls.i do not own one myself,but knew friends who have and they were good dogs.i myself think it`s how you bring the dog up,i`ve seen peploe teach there dogs to be mean and bite and it can be done with any dog.i would like to hear what some of you think.
http://q107.com/tool_of_the_day/derr...l.cfm?rem=1547

P.S. if you start looking around the site,"the champ" is a must

This is the reason why Pitbulls HAVE a very BAD reputation here in asia.

**kenman1963** · #3 03-02-2005, 07:39 PM

Pitts have a bad rep pretty much everywhere. Unfortunately it is not deserved,,,it's due to the irresponsibilities of the owner and how they were trained. When they are brought up properly, they are in fact wonderful dogs.

**furryscaly** · #4 03-02-2005, 10:05 PM

Yeah, pitbull terriers are one of my favorite breeds, but in a lot of places you need special permits to own them. One bite could have the dog put down too

**BlackJack** · #5 03-03-2005, 03:55 AM

I think pitbulls are beautiful animals, but like hot snakes, I'm not sure they are suited for everyone as pets.
Here is a family-related story to show what I mean:
My brother and sister in law owned two beautiful pit bulls (male and female) they were the sweetest, most loving dogs ever! They slept and played with the cats and were just wonderful, cuddly, affectionate beasts.
They had never been misused or mistreated and were never "conditioned" for fighting. They went through basic obedience training and passed with flying colors. (A bit stubborn but amazingly intelligent!)
They mated and had 11 beautiful puppies: (my brother and his wife kept 2). The parent dogs often had play-fights in the yard and when things got a bit rough, my sister-in-law would spray water near them with the hose and they would stop.
One day, however, they started fighting together in the backyard and didn't stop. (Fortunately the puppies were in the house) When my sister tried to separate them, she said their eyes had a glazed look and they were NOT listening to her. She locked herself in the house and called the police. By the time the police got there, one of the dogs was dead and the other was torn to shreds and dying. She had to be put down.

I don't know what happened. I always thought that things like that must be the owner's fault or the dog had to have been mistreated, but this was DEFINITELY NOT the case: My personal opinion is that generations of breeding this dog to fight has perhaps introduced a certain pre-disposition for aggressive behaviour (or insanity.) I think special permits should be required to own pitbulls, just like other exotic or wild animals. I don't think owning a pitbull can be compared to owning a labrador, for example. Although ANY dog can be made aggressive by mistreatment: pitbulls are just by nature more unpredictable than most.
PS -- the two puppies they kept grew up to be wonderful, loving pets.
But they had reports of one of their other puppies they sold that had been given as a present to a teenager who mistreated it and trained it with cattle prods, etc. And that dog became so aggressive it had to be put down.

**kriminaal** · #6 03-03-2005, 07:17 AM

I think as well that is a big part of it.That generations of them have been bred to be aggressive.Breeding out the good traits that would benefit pet owners and selecting the traits that would make them more volatile.It is unfortunate for the breed that they had become a tool of man. My opinion is there are lots of other dogs to chose from.But I guess that doesn't help if you already own one.Something had to be done to prevent more attacks.These were not simple dog bites that were happening.

**Merlin** · #7 03-03-2005, 08:39 AM

The bad rep Pits have is the result of primarily 2 things.
The wrong people keeping them.
The wrong people breeding them.

See a common theme here?

If the wrong people have them and breed them solely for strenth and aggressiveness, without concern for any other traits (whether or not the dog can be controlled) they end up producing exactly that.

If the wrong people get them with the idea of making it a "bad *** dog" then they also end up producing exactly that. These animals are a ticking time bomb and it is only a matter of time till they go off, usually with terrible results.

However it is grossly unfair to condemn an entire breed based on what a few individuals have caused. For many years I was involved with dog obedience training and have personally witnessed the stupid ideas that people have inflicted on their dogs, not just pits, but rotties, shepards, boxers and dobies! Any breed can be ruined.

Just as with reptiles a few ignorant people can ruin things for the rest.

Michelle · #8 03-03-2005, 11:10 PM

Unfortunately Pits do have an extremely bad reputation especially in large metros like here in Philadelphia... but for the record my dog trixie is a 5 year old female pit and is as well mannered as any breed of dog... My 3 year old daughter has been climbing on her since birth and we have never had a problem; yet she needed 7 stitches from a good for family breed (yellow lab) with no provocation!

I totally believe it is how the dog was raised, no breed of dog is inherently bad or evil.

**Ace** · #9 03-03-2005, 11:22 PM

I love pits I feel the same as all of you do that it is all in the owner. my friend jessica has a pit that is scared of barbie cars, the refrigerator sound,and other dogs lol!

**KrokadilyanGuy3** · #10 03-06-2005, 04:03 PM

My family has kept Pits, among Rotts and mutts since before I was born and I, too, have taken on this line of keeping. I'm a very big fan of American Pit Bull Terriers and it annoys me to see people inputting blithering nonsense (This topic is on several other forums). Pits are great dogs and definitely one of the best to have.

Pits have been bred for 'gameness' since the beginning of their time and demolishing this trait out of their breed will be somewhat hard since everyone keeping this breed are not exactly helpful. Plus different lines and then different breeders will wind up with nothing but a mess of things. Which is why you should buy from a reputable breeder. It's basically the same thing as with herps. If you get an animal for low cost, you can basically bet that's what you are getting. You get what you pay for.

Gameness is not an aggressive trait, it is a very strong trait that involves the animal to perform to the very best of their game (Dog fights, Bull dogging). Other trait this dog was bred for is loyalness, which makes sense; Who wants a bewildered dog? These dogs are bred for compassion, and to do basically what we want them to do. These dogs were not bred for aggression..

Most human attacks are due to mistreating, intervening with fights, trained dogs (Guard dogs) that escaped, other abuse or carelessness. In most cases, all human errors. Now with the story, Gameness, it was possibly due to gameness. This is why your dog should not be housed with any other animal, including other dogs. My dog loves the other dogs in the family and even loves the cats, however when I am not around he is kept outdoors due to this Gameness. You have to understand the animal you have.

As for the media, if you believe everything they say about anything, you should seriously see about getting a reality check. They are paid to be dramatic. The government and a select few people are, well.. Slow.. Most attacks are not even by this breed of dog, however these dogs are very powerful and even with an attack average to that of, lets say a lab, you will get far worse outcomes by the Pit.

My idea is, unless you are a license breeder, your animal should be spayed or neutered. If you are out looking for a pit, only buy from registered animals by reputable breeders. Don't short cut things. I can't recall the last time I heard. "ADBA pit bull attacks..."

Basically, if you hear someone say "So, my pit is a red nose.." You should consider taking your foot and swiftly kicking them in the knee, since it's people like this who help promote illiteracy of this breed.

In all extents, I would go pet an APBT faster than I would a poodle if I were worried about being bitten..
Zane


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