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This is what our member has to say: In that study it also states that these killers suffered severe abuse as a child. Not all children that have these classic signs are abused. ...


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 I helped move the meter!   09-02-2007, 11:07 PM
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Re: Child Kills Burmese Python

In that study it also states that these killers suffered severe abuse as a child.

Not all children that have these classic signs are abused. They are also doing studies, which is controversial, as to the fact that a lot of children with O.D.D are missing a part of the brain that controls the ability to have feelings or remorse for anything. These children usually go from O.D.D. to conduct disorder, which is a lot worse than the latter.

However not all these children grow up to be serial killeres or animal abusers. You have to teach them how to live as a person in society. The way that is done is teaching them the consequences for thei actions.

It is not that they care, that they hurt someone, or killed someone or something, it is that they survive on a very selfish level. They are taught not to do that because THEY do not want to go to jail, or THEY do not want to suffer the consequences of whatever their actions may be.

Their are a lot of children who actually learn to live in society with a functioning life. They just have to be caught early enough to help starrt the process of teaching them how.

Another thing is, that not all these children come from bad families or parenting. I personally have been in homes and have worked with kids that come from homes that make the Cleavers look bad, lol.
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The difference being that the child was at an event featuring the animals, and the handler of the animal was right there. I will agree, I don't like spiders and if they are in "my space" as in on me (if I'm inside) or somewhere I can't easily get them out of they usually do get smashed, but if I am out some where in there space then I leave them brush them off or leave them be. ESPECIALLY not if I am at an EVENT DEDICATED TO THESE ANIMALS and have someone right there with it that is CLEARLY in "charge" of it.

and ps, with the pit I would probably try to pet her if she seemed the least bit friendly...
The event as stated in the article featured "Reptiles, Skunks, Ferrets, Rabbits and, Goats" reptiles were only part of the show.

I'm only being the devils advocate here.

I did a web search on this story. This boy is ten years old!

For all you guys out there, when you were about ten, how many of you got a BB gun for christmas and turned around and shot a bird? Only to feel guilty afterward? I was about ten when these birds made a nest in our family attic. You could hear them rustling around when we were eating at the family table. My parents complained all the time about the noise. Well, I thought I was doing a good thing by taking my BB gun and shooting the bird. When I told my mother about what I did, Her face sunk. She told me that the bird I shot was part of a family and that the other bird would have to work twice as hard to feed it's young. I thought I was doing a good thing and I was so proud to tell my Mom what I did. But, Afterwards, I felt overwhelming guilt!
It takes adults being involved with their children to teach them respect for life.

I understand that everyone is disgusted with the news of this story!
But, I have to say that I'm equally disgusted in lableing a ten year old as being a potential Serial Killer!!!

We know nothing about what he felt! Before or after!

There are plenty of people who think reptile lovers(Especially snake lovers) Are to be feared. A love of snakes goes back centuries as being part of the "Dark Side". Snakes are associated with evil in most cultures.

They're are plenty of "Horror Movies" that revolve around snakes and spiders. They're are none involving Puppies and Kittens. If he had stomped a kitten, Well...

When I bought my first Tarantula, This woman 10 feet away heard me talking to the cashier about it. She asked me if I was really buying a spider. When I held up the SEALED container it was in to show her, She freaked out and threatened to come over to where I was and kill it!

I was pulled over by the police one time with my dog in the vehicle. He asked for me to get out of the vehicle. When I did, He complained that I left the window down too far and If my dog got out, he was going to shoot her!

My argument is it is about fear. Fear and hatred\violence are two sides of the same coin! Our history proves that!

When I originally responded to this thread, I had this little voice in the back of my head saying,"They don't want to hear this!" But, I'm just trying to be real.
Indescrimenent killing of snakes and spiders are an accepted part of our society.
I'm trying to present more than the typical "Knee jerk reaction"

Education is the key! Hopefully this news story and the facts about snakes will reach more people than if it didn't happen.

This all I have to say on this subject.

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Re: Child Kills Burmese Python

I understand what you are saying, og, but it's one thing to get a new toy and shoot something without realizing what would happen - then feel regret. The news article I read (I'll try to find it again) made it clear that this was not the case with this boy.

First he told the snakes owner that he hated snakes. The owner then told him that was okay, but to leave the snake alone and it wouldn't bother him. The boy walked away and waited until the owner was distracted, then snuck back and stomped on the snake's head. By all reasoning, this was a case of premeditated murder where the boy clearly knew what he was going to do, why, and what would happen afterward.

No one here was saying that this boy will turn out to be a serial killer. What they were saying is that this is the type of thing that fits the profile, and clearly this was not the reaction of a normal child who is afraid of snakes. In all honesty, he really does need something to show him that this was very wrong, or else he will likely do something like this again.

I'm pretty sensative to people promoting hatred, and I really didn't see that here. I think everyone - while outraged at the result of his actions and the noncommittal attitude of his father - has nothing but concern for the boy's well-being, and hopes that he is able to get some correction before he does something similar or worse again.
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First he told the snakes owner that he hated snakes. The owner then told him that was okay, but to leave the snake alone and it wouldn't bother him. The boy walked away and waited until the owner was distracted, then snuck back and stomped on the snake's head.
See, It was never stated that the boy snuck back and waited for the owner to be distracted!
I looked up the News accounts for this story. Not a herps lovers account. The Local news stated that the boy said he hated snakes and then without warning stomped the animal. That's a direct quote from the keeper.

This story has been just a bit embellished to make a point.

I just don't like seeing a child being portrayed as some kind of "Demon seed" or at the least some sort of "problem child"! Because once labled, They might live up to it!

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Re: Child Kills Burmese Python

I agree that labels can be harmful to children, but still, if such behavior is ignored it does grow into something. I speak from experience--when I was very young, I was abused by my father: only verbally, but I have a hypersensitivity disorder that affects me mentally as well as physically, which made everything worse; he might as well have beat me for the scars it left. When I finally realized I didn't need to blame myself for his actions, I began to hate him.

It starts out small, so that nobody thinks anything of it.

Then it grows into a deep-seated resentment, not merely of one person but of everyone and everything, gradually growing until you're consumed, and hatred is all you are.

Long story short, I wound up in a mental hospital for two weeks.

I got help, however; I was not forced to live with it forever. I am now a perfectly well-adjusted adult with an abiding love for nature and all her creatures--lizards, snakes, spiders, pitbulls, etc.

This child has a different problem than I had, I think, but it will grow; if he doesn't get help, it will eat him alive, and once it does, it will use him to attack those around him. If he is able to so flippantly kill an animal when it has been pointed out to him an instant before that it is harmless to him and then laugh at its pain as dies, I daresay it will only get worse. What bothers me the most isn't that he killed the snake so much as that he laughed. When most people kill a spider out of fear, they don't laugh about it. If someone were to kill a dog that he assumed were dangerous (even if it really wasn't), he still wouldn't think its death was funny--only that it was a danger, and the assumption that he did what he had to.

It's the child's laughter, his enjoyment of another living creature's pain, that is truly disturbing.

 


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