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02-27-2005, 04:14 PM
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Can you mix together anoles and geckoes?
How about different speices of geckoes, like cresteds and leopards?
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02-27-2005, 05:10 PM
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Mixing of species is frowned upon by most, but not by me. Quoting Philippe de Vosjoli from his book "Rachodactylus, The Complete Guide to Their Selection and Care."

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...let us state that we do not agree with the righeous narrow-minded asserstions by experts that these geckos and other reptiles species should never be kept with other species. The highest form of herpetoculture involves creating large complex vivarium systems where several species of animals, including invertebrates, will cohabit and breed.
Ill post some links of great arguments pertaining to this subject. Several factors have to be considered. I haven't mixed species, nor do I plan on it anytime soon, it takes alot of planning plus experience with each of the species you are planning on displaying, if you don't have experience with the species, how would you know if something is going wrong? It takes years of experience.

The mixing of cresteds and Leopard Geckos is hopefully just an example. The habitat's of the two is like mars compared to pluto. Maybe a fat tail and a leo. Or a crested and a gargoyle. Im not saying that these are two concrete examples of mixable species, but I believe either could be possible, once again it takes serious planning and experience.

A few of the factors that need to be considered are habitat size, the 10 gallon rule, or any other herp size to tank size ratio is obsolete in this situation. Visual barriers are a must as well as several hiding places, I don't think the mixing of species could be done on a non-natural vivarium setup.

These links are from a dart frog forum:
http://dendroboard.com/phpBB2/viewto...ghlight=mixing
http://dendroboard.com/phpBB2/viewto...ghlight=mixing
http://dendroboard.com/phpBB2/viewto...ghlight=mixing

Thats alot of reading, but not nearly enough. Most of the problems that arise with mixing in the dart frog community is mixing species that could hybridize, not a problem with most geckos.

If you are looking for a yes or no answer...I can't really give one. Too many factors and everyone and everything is unique. For the most part I say no, however I don't think that this should discourage you.

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I have no clue about geckoes.....
I seriously need to do more research and then decide!
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The highest form of herpetoculture involves creating large complex vivarium systems where several species of animals, including invertebrates, will cohabit and breed
I think the keyword here is LARGE. The people that are doing this successfully have several specific things going for them. The enclosures are very large zoo type enclosures. They aren't talking about a 10-20 gallon tank. Also the animals are limited to very specific species and strictly quarantined before introduction and the health is not in question. They are also NOT beginners. Maintaining such an enclosure is a constant effort and if you are including live plants it becomes even more complicated.
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There is one problem with deVosjoli. While in some aspects he is quite knowledgable he routinely takes the attitude that he knows everything and everyone that doesn't agree with him is an idiot! If you disagree with him, you are just wrong and too stupid to realize it. Some of his husbandry recommendations include feeding animal protein to iguanas!
Don't take EVERYTHING he says as gospel.
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