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10-31-2004, 06:24 PM
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Found in Flower bed
While cleaning out my flower bed, i came across this little snake. Can anyone identify it. I looked in my field guide and the only thing that look similar was an everglade rat snake...these are usualy only found in Florida.  Can anyone else find something different?
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10-31-2004, 06:40 PM
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Not sure, but you are always lucky! I'm so jealous!
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10-31-2004, 09:26 PM
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don't know what it is either but what a cutie! 
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10-31-2004, 09:31 PM
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Best guess is an American Ratsnake. But there are roughly nine subspecies, so I'll say that it may be a Yellow Ratsnake (Elaphe obsoleta quadrivittata). Indigenous in Eastern USA to N.E. Mexico in a variety of habitats.
Source: The Atlas of Snakes of the World; John Coborn
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The only problem with that is that Marsha lives in eastern Texas. Yellow rats do not. However, the yellow rat is one of many subspecies of the black rat snake ( Elaphe obsoleta obsoleta). The only one of these subspecies that lives in Texas is the texas rat snake, although the black does cross slightly into north-eastern TX, but that's it. The only other two rats it could be are a corn snake or a great plains rat snake. Are you certain it is a rat snake? It could possibly be a coachwhip. Both the eastern and western coachwhips live in eastern Texas, and the western comes in either tan or red. The eastern has black, but no red. However, the snake you saw is a baby, correct? Coachwhips change color drastically from young to adult, and even from adult to adult. Whether its a rat or a coachwhip I don't know, cause I don't remember quite wjat your pic looks like. lol, I only saw it once, and this computer won't show any images for one stupid reason or another 
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Definitely a baby, maybe 7 inches. It was very small and very fast. Thanks for everyones help. I put him back in the flower bed we'll see if he sticks around.
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Ok, got a different computer now so I can see the pic. Still hard to tell though, but it doesn't look like any rat snake to me. Did you get a look at its belly? Now that I can see it again, I'm thinking it may actually be a florida red-belly snake (Storeria occipitomaculata spp.) or a texas brown snake (Storeria dekayi spp.). lol, I really wanna find out what it was!!!
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10-31-2004, 10:49 PM
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it could be a ribbon or garter snake. they are pretty common and look different depending on where u find them.
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It's a flame garter. They are gorgeous. Did you keep it???????
I'll trade it for a ball python. lol
Here's a link. http://freespace.virgin.net/alan.francis2/crimson.htm
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Are you sure it's a flame garter? Maybey venus can get some better quality pics to help us out again some time. I too would pay a great amount for a snake like that. But I also think it's great that you let him live his life where he belongs.
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