I was looking on Mulberryfarms at what they had. I see they had Phoenix Worms as a new product, so I did a little digging on them and found the orginal site, http://www.phoenixworm.com/

I was wondering if anyone has tried them or has heard of them?

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I've heard of them but have yet to try them. I think they are realitively small so they might not be very economical for me to use.

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I've been meaning to try them but they are pretty pricey. They are breed in huge enclosures and supposedly extremely high in Calcium, but my belief is that they are actually too high, and contain to much chitin. Check out this thread from dendroboard: Phoenix worm sticking out of dart frog

I don't know if you know this one (last time I asked I got no answers) but there's also Chilecomadia moorei which we call Tebo around here (and I've just realized that you know them by butterworms).
They're also very high on Ca. Let me see if I can pull more info online..

Have you seen this about phoenix worms? It's related to Cody's link
http://www.flycontrol.novartis.com/s...en/index.shtml

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Here's the values for butterworms (Chilecomadia moorei)
Moisture 58.54 %
Ash 1.04 %
Protein 16.20 %
Fat 5.21 %
Calories/Fat 87.73
Calcium (ml/100 grs) 42.90

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Here is another link I found about them, it has the phamlet about them. http://www.forums.repashy.com/showth...?t=1051&page=2

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Hello,

I just did a search on Hermetia illucens, the "fly" that produces these worms. I won't be trying them. lol

Texas A&M University Article has this is their article:

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Well I won't be buying them ever now that I've seen this thread.

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Craig Sheppard here, developer of the Phoenix Worm. After reading comments on this forum and dendroboard, it seemed important to register and join the discussions.

One respondent here wrote that Phoenix Worms are "too high" in calcium and "contain too much chitin." We worked with herp breeders over a 5-year period before coming out with Phoenix Worms and this is the first time this comment has come up. Medium size Phoenix Worms have about 8000ppm (parts per million) calcium and 5300ppm phosphorus--a good balance of these important minerals. Hatchling leopard geckos fed exclusively Phoenix Worms with no supplementation for six months did fine. (We don't advocate this. It was a test.) Phoenix Worms are VERY soft-bodied and we've never even had the chitin analyzed. How much chitin do they contain?

Our Phoenix Worms have never been in the wild. They are reared on a fresh grain-based diet and are extremely nutritious. If you would like to receive an informative brochure and a copy of the nutritional analysis (conducted by an independent lab), send a self-addressed stamped envelope to:

Insect Science Resource
768 Brighton Road
Tifton, GA 31794

Thanks for providing an opportunity to respond.

Craig Sheppard, Ph.D.
Insect Science Resource

Hi Craig! Glad you joined and took the time to clear the doubts among this issue. Do you have that nutritional analysis and brochure in digital format (like PDF)?

And about the myiasis situation?

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