Hi,

I got in touch with the breeder and this is his reply. I had got the parents wrong but as he says they are both 'pure corns'.
Here is a copy of his reply.

Hi Saxon.
I know them two

There dad is an old "straw" type caramel, very old guy.
Sure he had some great genes in him, which you could tell from the quality of the hatchlings he sired. I put him to several females in 2006 and got some really interesting looking hatchlings

Ther mam is an amel called "Fats amel (K) " ( don't ask about the name)
Some people say she is a reverse Okeette.

Both are pure corns.

A you say you wanted Creamsicles and I did not have any so selected you two amels that looked a bit like creamsicles. They have changed quite a bit since you took them. Both look like they are doing well especially as they are last years hatchlings.

It is very hard to tell some creamsicles from a pure corns, but in most cases I tell from feel. Snakes with Great Plains in then have a harder feel than corns. There can be differance in body shape and head shape too. But don't forget Ceamsicles are part corn anyway so the more corn in the mix the harder it is to tell.

Stephen


As they are not 'aged' would the fading come into play?? These two were hatched 17th May 2006.

How much in the US do amels and creamsicles sell for?? I paid very little for either of these.

An amel will sell at shows or from a breeder for about 20-25 dollars. The creamsicle would be double that cost.
If purchased in a pet shop, both prices would be considerably higher.

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Merlin,
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Crikey that's way cheap.

We pay 20GBP for an amel hatchling and around £50 for creamsicle hatchlings.

I didn't pay these prices but that's because I know the breeder quite well now as I've bought afew form him.

If thats the reply of the breeder than their the strangeist pure corns I've seen, but to each their own. It's had to say any way without knowing the backgound of each snake. Here amels sell for about 15-25 Euro and Creamsicles are not much more about 35 eruo. As far as fading it's not the color fading but the white areas in the saddles (sometimes refered to as frosting) thats allways present in rat corn crosses. So I'll end this all on this note.

Amel corn


Creamsicle corn


Both snakes are from my breeding from 2006.

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£50 for an creamsicle is a scam IMO.. i see them for around £30 all the time from a breeders any how

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chris

Sorry that was the price for a 'snow cream' or a 'butter cream'.

I was offered an '06 butter cream for £60.

I can't find any 'creamsicles' for sale anywhere. Not hatchlings anyway.
I have been offered a few '06/'05's and an '03. Which were very cheap.

Prices are different around the world...here in Portugal you pay 50-65 euros for a normal corn. Mainly because the market is very very small.

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Joao